Buying a southbend clutch??? See this first!

AshFR

Seat Leon TDi PD150 2005
Mar 10, 2011
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In relation to this thread : http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=370885

This is my Southbend stage 2 daily driver SILENT SMF clutch which has been in for less than 3 months.

This clutch was rated for 400 ft/ibs torque and my car is running 191bhp and 324 ft/ibs.

Check this out!

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Sep 18, 2009
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Mate that sucks. As said in another thread this was one of my choices for a clutch but I've crossed it off the list.
 

AshFR

Seat Leon TDi PD150 2005
Mar 10, 2011
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Wow !! Now that's foooooked.... Smf helped cause that do you think

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No mate I don't think so. Just an awful clutch.

That is shocking what have they said?

Darkside can't believe it and never seen it before and forwarded the picture to southbend to see what they say.

Not again!
Bad luck dude.
Any ideas what the problem is?

Yep again but worse. Yeah the problem is the clutch lol. Clutch wasn't disengaging properly then after a fewiles this happened.

Mate that sucks. As said in another thread this was one of my choices for a clutch but I've crossed it off the list.

Yes mate glad you have. Sachs or helix is choice now. Maybe slighly more noisey but worth it IMO.
 

rsmith

Robbie
Apr 28, 2004
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I have had nothing but problems with my southbend Clutch in my mk1 lcr, stage 2 endurance OFE with standard dmf, curse the day I got it.

To the op, looks nasty, hopefully you will get sorted.

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Sep 18, 2009
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I want to know how they an sell a kit at that sort of price when it's clearly not up to the job. £1100 is a lot of money really for 1 mod on your motor.
 

DarksideDev

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Oct 18, 2012
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Just thought I would post in here, as I was made aware of this thread last night.

As you saw in the first post Ashley linked to, we sent out a replacement clutch a few months ago when he started having issues. We paid for that out of our pocket as SouthBend wanted to see this kit before covering it under warranty. To cut a long story short SouthBend would not pay warranty on the part, so we were stuck with the bill.

The second clutch then started giving Ashley problems pretty quickly, which to us points at another issue with the vehicle. However, the car became undrivable before we could try anything else, and ultimately we end up with the disaster that you see in the first photos.

This time Ashley did not want another SouthBend Kit, so we sent a new Pressure Plate and Slave Cylinder free of charge, and a Sachs Race Clutch Disc for our cost price.

Since we did not do any of the work, we cannot speculate on what has caused this issue, but there are too many factors that can cause a clutch to fail, such as bending the disc during install (by not lining the Input Shaft correctly), not bedding it in sufficiently or other external factors that increase wear. Play in the input shaft quickly kills the Disc, and a Faulty Master Cylinder (as mentioned in Ashley’s previous post) can cause the exact damage seen here.
We did a clutch job on a Mk4 Golf last week. The Standard Dual Mass would not clear but had been in around 80k so the customer just expected normal wear. When we took it apart, the rivets holding the marcel fins to the centre of the disc were ripped out. Turned out the Master Cylinder was sticking (at first randomly, but was now all the time) meaning the brand new Clutch and Flywheel would not bleed up. We swapped the Master Cylinder (about 1hrs work in a Mk4 Golf), bled the system and all was well.

We do not like playing the blame game, as it gets you nowhere. We also do not want unhappy customers as I am sure everyone who has dealt with us will know.
In light of this, we have currently removed the SouthBend products from our website until we have a response from SouthBend. We have had no support from them with the last few issues we have had, which as the UK distributor for their products is not acceptable. Don’t get me wrong, we have sold nearly 100 SouthBend kits and the problem rate is in the low single figures (considering with CG Motorsport we had a failure rate of 80%!!!), but without the support of the manufacturer, we are stranded. We have paid the warranty out of our own pockets for several kits (minor issues) and this cannot continue.

We are currently testing our own SMF Kits for the 6 Speeds in some of our project cars as we speak, and these will be released for sale very shortly, but only when we have tested them sufficiently to be confident we won’t have issues with quality.

I hope that clears up our position on the matter, and we hope Ashley gets his car sorted as soon as possible.

Thanks

Scott
 
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