Newbie & waiting for Ibiza 1.2 TSI 90PS FR

[ibiza]

My friend who knows his cars thought it was a 1.8 engine...it's only 1.0....but 110PS (realistically probably 115-120 PS (which is what non-Turbo 1.6-1.8 develop), Seat are very good at not bothering to de-tune VAG's 115PS units to 110PS). I read somewhere that 110PS is the minimum it must develop on the most basic (crap) fuel avalaible. If they get more than the base quoted power, they don't bother detuning it....of course if you put good fuel, you may get some gains...I had Shell Vpower in it when my friend commented. A bit pricey @ 1.30/pl, but will downgrade next fuel up to Momentum 99 1.23/pl

In fact, I think in Brazil, when they put the same 1.0 TSI (can't remember if it was the 90/95/110/115 PS variant) into the Up, put on dyno...surprise! 134PS stock. Didn't say which fuel they used though, maybe 97-99RON.

So yes...you will probably find it punches above it weight, but what car did you have prior? I had a 150PS engine prior, so...didn't wow me, but it still goes...and goes well...

Nice! Yeah I test drove a 1.4 and it was quick! Only a 1.0 Toyota Yaris, so a mega upgrade! To be fair to the little car it was cheap to run and cheap to insure and only ever needed a new clutch at 65,000 miles. It's at 71,000 now, but really need something better as I have a out of town job now, hence the upgrade, and the deal from SEAT was fantastic.

 

[KXL]

Nice! Yeah I test drove a 1.4 and it was quick! Only a 1.0 Toyota Yaris, so a mega upgrade! To be fair to the little car it was cheap to run and cheap to insure and only ever needed a new clutch at 65,000 miles. It's at 71,000 now, but really need something better as I have a out of town job now, hence the upgrade, and the deal from SEAT was fantastic.

Ah you will love it then....coming from a Yaris 68 PS engine?
I'm not sure if you have driven with Bi-Xenons before, but it starts very blue, and dim (don't panic), and it gradually settles to a whitish colour. When pulling up at the lights behind a white..or silver car...I usually go as close as possible, so my headlights don't dazzle me back ahahaa...it's that bright!

Mine in the first 10-20 hours the two bulbs were a bit different colour temp, but now nice and settled...oh...and if you turn them on, when you just start the engine..they go down up, and left right (dance rountine)...very good for dark roads...if you feel it could shine a bit further, you can also do some small fine adjustment to raise it a little...(which I did).

 

[KXL]

The sound system is good for the Ibiza. The dealerships told me the seat sound system doesn't make much of a difference in sound quality.

Anyone got a standard sound system one to compare with with my ears haha? Mines got the SS with sub in the boot...£155 extra ain't bad...for the added bass oomph! Can't find the amp they said it comes with though...maybe it's part of the sub...

 

[ibiza]

Ah you will love it then....coming from a Yaris 68 PS engine?
I'm not sure if you have driven with Bi-Xenons before, but it starts very blue, and dim (don't panic), and it gradually settles to a whitish colour. When pulling up at the lights behind a white..or silver car...I usually go as close as possible, so my headlights don't dazzle me back ahahaa...it's that bright!

Mine in the first 10-20 hours the two bulbs were a bit different colour temp, but now nice and settled...oh...and if you turn them on, when you just start the engine..they go down up, and left right (dance rountine)...very good for dark roads...if you feel it could shine a bit further, you can also do some small fine adjustment to raise it a little...(which I did).

I assume so! I'll find out the spec of my yaris! I haven't had Bi-Xenons before, are they worth it? I have also added the drive profile and a few other bits which should make it fun!

Does it feel different with the drive profile? Is the ambient lighting good too?

 

[KXL]

I assume so! I'll find out the spec of my yaris! I haven't had Bi-Xenons before, are they worth it? I have also added the drive profile and a few other bits which should make it fun!

Does it feel different with the drive profile? Is the ambient lighting good too?

For me they are worth it, much brighter than halogen (maybe at least 2-2.5 times) and my previous car was a Seat Leon Mk3 with LED headlights (Bi-Xenon perhaps just 25-50% brighter than LED), but somehow Ibiza Xenons not brighter than Prius or Merc LED headlights!

For dark country roads/highway, I find Bi-xenon brighter than Leon LEDs, but for city, colour temp of LED picked up more detail (cones, people's shoes, bicycles, nice legs (oops didn't just say that).

Can't comment on drive profile and ambient lighting, spent that money on Seat Sound system instead...

 

[ibiza]

For me they are worth it, much brighter than halogen (maybe at least 2-2.5 times) and my previous car was a Seat Leon Mk3 with LED headlights (Bi-Xenon perhaps just 25-50% brighter than LED), but somehow Ibiza Xenons not brighter than Prius or Merc LED headlights!

For dark country roads/highway, I find Bi-xenon brighter than Leon LEDs, but for city, colour temp of LED picked up more detail (cones, people's shoes, bicycles, nice legs (oops didn't just say that).

Can't comment on drive profile and ambient lighting, spent that money on Seat Sound system instead...

That's good then, yeah I wish they were LED (the new 2017 models coming out have LED's) I didn't pick the sound system as i didn't think there would be much of a difference? Is there?

 

[ibiza]

For me they are worth it, much brighter than halogen (maybe at least 2-2.5 times) and my previous car was a Seat Leon Mk3 with LED headlights (Bi-Xenon perhaps just 25-50% brighter than LED), but somehow Ibiza Xenons not brighter than Prius or Merc LED headlights!

For dark country roads/highway, I find Bi-xenon brighter than Leon LEDs, but for city, colour temp of LED picked up more detail (cones, people's shoes, bicycles, nice legs (oops didn't just say that).

Can't comment on drive profile and ambient lighting, spent that money on Seat Sound system instead...

Why didn't you get a leon instead? for me it was just the price!

 

[steveemacz FR]

Anyone got a standard sound system one to compare with with my ears haha? Mines got the SS with sub in the boot...£155 extra ain't bad...for the added bass oomph! Can't find the amp they said it comes with though...maybe it's part of the sub...

That be a worthy test,because I wanted the seat sound system in my ibiza too. But got told by the dealerships, there's no difference.

Maybe we'll have to meet up one day and test that theory out. I want to find out whether the seat sound system is really good.

 

[steveemacz FR]

Why didn't you get a leon instead? for me it was just the price!

I like the Leon. Just for me the insurance hits quite hard even for a Leon FR. The Ibiza FR comes out as just affordable.

 

[ibiza]

I like the Leon. Just for me the insurance hits quite hard even for a Leon FR. The Ibiza FR comes out as just affordable.

That was the same for me, and SEAT weren't offering any big discounts on the Leon's, only on the Ibiza which is funny because they were releasing the new Leon a few weeks later and before the news about the Ibiza's, the dealership confirmed there was new models coming out but didn't know when or what they would be like, I prefer the shape of the current model, I feel the new one looks to much like a Leon?

 

[ibiza]

Still no news from the dealership I wonder if it's arrived at the garage yet or it's sat waiting at port for a transporter truck.

 

[KXL]

Why didn't you get a leon instead? for me it was just the price!

Well funny story, I wanted to, I was about to put deposit on either Cupra 290 Black DSG or FR Titanium TDI 184 DSG on lease. But cannot put options.. Then the facelift was imminent, then they pulled the deal for the incoming facelift and looking at insurance it was a bit high...thought, lets be sensible and get the Leon 1.4 EcoTSI FR/Titanium DSG, wait times for those engines is 6+ months, then the same leaser/dealer told me about the Ibiza FR 1.0 EcoTSI DSG...thought, bah...downgrade from a 2.0TDI Leon to 1.0TSI, no thanks...thinking it was one of those weedy 75PS units (coming from a 150PS unit, it's like going from Business class to Economy). But it was as good deal + free 1 yr insurance, plus it was the facelifted ibiza that had a proper (not afterthought) Sat Nav + new improved dash layout, and the same FR steering wheel from the Leon. I do find the Leon more comfortable for passengeres and for longer highway journeys, but it is a bit wide...and a PITA to parallel park, large C pillars, and no sensors...old school parking...but now that I have bedded in the 1.0EcoTSI, it's not such a bad downgrade, 40PS less, but also 200 kg lighter ...

 

[ibiza]

Well funny story, I wanted to, I was about to put deposit on either Cupra 290 Black DSG or FR Titanium TDI 184 DSG on lease. But cannot put options.. Then the facelift was imminent, then they pulled the deal for the incoming facelift and looking at insurance it was a bit high...thought, lets be sensible and get the Leon 1.4 EcoTSI FR/Titanium DSG, wait times for those engines is 6+ months, then the same leaser/dealer told me about the Ibiza FR 1.0 EcoTSI DSG...thought, bah...downgrade from a 2.0TDI Leon to 1.0TSI, no thanks...thinking it was one of those weedy 75PS units (coming from a 150PS unit, it's like going from Business class to Economy). But it was as good deal + free 1 yr insurance, plus it was the facelifted ibiza that had a proper (not afterthought) Sat Nav + new improved dash layout, and the same FR steering wheel from the Leon. I do find the Leon more comfortable for passengeres and for longer highway journeys, but it is a bit wide...and a PITA to parallel park, large C pillars, and no sensors...old school parking...but now that I have bedded in the 1.0EcoTSI, it's not such a bad downgrade, 40PS less, but also 200 kg lighter ...

Haha! It seems you made a good choice, I don't like how wide the Leon is compared to the Ibiza, especially when you factor in how narrow our roads & parking spaces are! If someone even dares to touch my car with their doors, god help them!

 

[KXL]

That be a worthy test,because I wanted the seat sound system in my ibiza too. But got told by the dealerships, there's no difference.

Maybe we'll have to meet up one day and test that theory out. I want to find out whether the seat sound system is really good.

Sure...but I think you are in Leeds no? I'm down in London (East side). Bring your favourite CD or songs on USB if you do.. I did turn on a Ibiza Cupra sound system in the dealers I think it was standard SS, but...it was on FM radio, and not with CD or SDcard high bit-rate MP3s, so the source was already poor, so couldn't judge.

Tbh, if stuck in traffic, or doing 20-30mph speeds, this sound system is quite good, any faster, forget it, road noise will negate any bass oomph or amp wizardy. If you frequently do 50mph + journeys, then...well...it's probably not worth it...as you can't hear it... till date the best in car sound systems I've heard (on cars I can afford ahaha) is the HK on Mini, Bose on A1, and I think B&O (on friend's Audi A5). Old Leon wasn't half bad either, standard SS uses 8 speakers and 8 inch front speakers

 

[bcr5784]

Haha! It seems you made a good choice, I don't like how wide the Leon is compared to the Ibiza, especially when you factor in how narrow our roads & parking spaces are! If someone even dares to touch my car with their doors, god help them!

Have to agree, width was a significant factor in our choice of the Ibiza. The fact that the next Ibiza is nearly 3 inches wider is a big negative to me.

 

[ibiza]

Have to agree, width was a significant factor in our choice of the Ibiza. The fact that the next Ibiza is nearly 3 inches wider is a big negative to me.

It sure is, I don't know why they copied the Leon, it was a pointless move!


Anyone got any reviews on the drive profile?

 

[Dandanman]

It sure is, I don't know why they copied the Leon, it was a pointless move!


Anyone got any reviews on the drive profile?

I have the drive profile on my 1.8TSI Cupra Black and you can definitely tell when you have it in sport mode. The Steering gets noticeably heavier and the suspension stiffens up a fair amount so body roll is minimal. Makes it much more fun driving down country roads!

 

[bcr5784]

It sure is, I don't know why they copied the Leon, it was a pointless move!


Anyone got any reviews on the drive profile?

Ive got it on mine, the difference between the two settings is not huge, body control is just a bit better in Sport, noticeable when fully laden - as said above the steering does get noticeably heavier in sport, which I prefer. I wish you select heavier steering and soft damping on occasion - I personally wouldn't if the steering was always like that. Overall though I find it useful , I don't consider it a "must have" option.

 

[ibiza]

I have the drive profile on my 1.8TSI Cupra Black and you can definitely tell when you have it in sport mode. The Steering gets noticeably heavier and the suspension stiffens up a fair amount so body roll is minimal. Makes it much more fun driving down country roads!

Yeah I can't wait!

 

[ibiza]

Ive got it on mine, the difference between the two settings is not huge, body control is just a bit better in Sport, noticeable when fully laden - as said above the steering does get noticeably heavier in sport, which I prefer. I wish you select heavier steering and soft damping on occasion - I personally wouldn't if the steering was always like that. Overall though I find it useful , I don't consider it a "must have" option.

Cheers, I can't wait to have a play with it