Wife’s 1.4 act Leon was serviced today, report tells me the lower sump is rusting becoming porous and will need replaced soon at £302, bottom arm bushes are debonding, new bushes required at £183, we have extended warranty on the car so service is going to try that route first, if not can I diy these jobs, I have access to a ramp etc.
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New sump required!
- Thread starter martin j.
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The genuine sump is around £150! or aftermarket £25-30! DIY sump is not difficult.
Probably similar saving with the bushes! I don't know your part number for these. Often easier and not much more money to just replace the bottom arm.
Or be daring/silly and replace the slightly voided bushes with solid Golf R32 ones, I'm surprised that these bushes have started to debond before getting torn when finding potholes.
My wife's 6C Polo 1.2TSI ended up with a torn lower arm bush within its first 2 years of warranty, that was sorted FOC - I had thought VW would have said "not our fault" as I'm sure it would have been due to driving across an unsighted pothole - I jumped the gun and bought the tool to press them out and new ones in and have noted the part number of the solid ones, but up to now that has not been needed.
Rusting sumps, yes, I treat any rust spots I find to Hammerite, our previous 2 VW Group cars both had alloy sumps so none of that sort of problem, then VW Group changed back to either steel sumps or just steel base plates for sumps.
My wife did have a Ford Fiesta 1.1 that had almost started leaking, I just bought a new Ford sump, wiped the outer surface with meths to de-grease it and that removed all the original black paint, then I treated it to a tin of black Hammerite! When I removed the original sump, quite a bit of the inner surface had changed from nice clean silvery steel colour to black/blue almost completely rotten metal, so I got it just in time. There used to be tales of Pug diesels having a plastic coating over the steel sumps, that was perfect until "you" went over bad bump in the road and the plastic coating broke and revealed the now dissolved steel above it and all the engine oil "fell" out, not good. I know someone that had happen to their diesel Sierra (Pug engine). That Ford Fiesta would only have been 4 or 5 years old when it got its 2nd steel sump. I think that something changed in the paints that European car valve covers and sumps manufacturers used, prior to roughly 1991 this was never a big issue - after that it was.
My wife's 6C Polo 1.2TSI ended up with a torn lower arm bush within its first 2 years of warranty, that was sorted FOC - I had thought VW would have said "not our fault" as I'm sure it would have been due to driving across an unsighted pothole - I jumped the gun and bought the tool to press them out and new ones in and have noted the part number of the solid ones, but up to now that has not been needed.
Rusting sumps, yes, I treat any rust spots I find to Hammerite, our previous 2 VW Group cars both had alloy sumps so none of that sort of problem, then VW Group changed back to either steel sumps or just steel base plates for sumps.
My wife did have a Ford Fiesta 1.1 that had almost started leaking, I just bought a new Ford sump, wiped the outer surface with meths to de-grease it and that removed all the original black paint, then I treated it to a tin of black Hammerite! When I removed the original sump, quite a bit of the inner surface had changed from nice clean silvery steel colour to black/blue almost completely rotten metal, so I got it just in time. There used to be tales of Pug diesels having a plastic coating over the steel sumps, that was perfect until "you" went over bad bump in the road and the plastic coating broke and revealed the now dissolved steel above it and all the engine oil "fell" out, not good. I know someone that had happen to their diesel Sierra (Pug engine). That Ford Fiesta would only have been 4 or 5 years old when it got its 2nd steel sump. I think that something changed in the paints that European car valve covers and sumps manufacturers used, prior to roughly 1991 this was never a big issue - after that it was.
Whilst talking about sump's - I serviced my parents 2016 C4 Picasso 2.0 HDI recently - ordered oil and filter easily enough - then looking for a sump plug washer I discovered they all have PLASTIC sumps!
The sump plug is now a quarter turn plastic plug with o-ring. The o-ring was faintly weeping so i'm sure the previous garage never changed the o-ring; annoyingly/stupidly it is a proprietary size and not an of the shelf metric one!A least it won't rust!
After a couple of weeks of discussion Seat will sort the front suspension bushes under warranty but not the sump, they say the problem is rust so not warranty, I’ll just keep any on it and change it myself if required, but I did reckon the rust was there due to Seat’s poor paint on the metal but hey ho win some lose some.
