Collision avoidance assistance

[Tell]

Well if you launch at something it doesnt know you are going to brake or turn away from what's in it's radar vision. You should get the warning signal then if ignored the brakes.

 

[Hertsman]

Well if you launch at something it doesnt know you are going to brake or turn away from what's in it's radar vision. You should get the warning signal then if ignored the brakes.

In reality its not anywhere near launching at anything, better titled as what most would accept as a brisk getaway, and car passing is quite a distance away and given its speed it would be well gone to left and up the road by time i got to where it was.

Warning and Brake slam in single episode, barely move a yard.

This is on a large open roundabout, the type where those on the dual carriage way carry most of their speed unless something is coming to their right and so those of us entering on the side road have to judge when we can insert ourselves with a brisk start in same way been doing for 40+ years and on this particular roundabout close to home, 20+ years.

My 2 Golf R, Golf GTI TCR and BMW 128ti all had same tech and never once did it engage on same said roundabout.

In summary, its not a debate now really, Its simply too sensitive by default.

 

[Tell]

In reality its not anywhere near launching at anything, better titled as what most would accept as a brisk getaway, and car passing is quite a distance away and given its speed it would be well gone to left and up the road by time i got to where it was.

Warning and Brake slam in single episode, barely move a yard.

This is on a large open roundabout, the type where those on the dual carriage way carry most of their speed unless something is coming to their right and so those of us entering on the side road have to judge when we can insert ourselves with a brisk start in same way been doing for 40+ years and on this particular roundabout close to home, 20+ years.

My 2 Golf R, Golf GTI TCR and BMW 128ti all had same tech and never once did it engage on same said roundabout.

In summary, its not a debate now really, Its simply too sensitive by default.

Ah you need it looked at or it self learns as has been said. My Ateca did pick up a lorry turning probably 30 yards away, off the road in a truck stop once. You go what. It's possible that my dealer realligned it although I never said to them about the issue. That was the warning.

Living in the land of 20 mph one doesnt drive too fast now and that hedge doesnt jump out in front of you as you accelerate out of the village on a bend, still 20. The Arona has also been behaving itself of recent where it use to warn at that spot. There where I'm worried about black ice and the brakes slamming on with on coming traffic and the car may spin. I'm the human black ice co-driver nagger. Driver wants a button to turn me off...

 

[serdar_18fr]

It seems the Terramar does not like a car in its vision as you boot the accelerator, even if its quite far away, travelling at speed and be well gone by time I get there. Result is that as soon as push pedal the full on collision assist stops me before even crept a yard.

This behaviour is very similar to the "Rear Traffic Alert", which is supposed to help the driver while backing out of a driveway, for example, by looking for any oncoming traffic from either side. But in reality, it overzealously intervenes and slams the brakes in any sight of a vehicle at the back while reversing. For instance, there's a parking lane along the roadside, you're on that lane and making small manoeuvres to achieve a perfect parking position without creating any danger for the traffic coming from the back, and that traffic is flowing without creating any danger to you. But our "assistance" system intervenes at any sight of a vehicle at the back and stops you from reversing. Long story short, it's just a big annoyance and I had to turn it off. (Both in my previous car, a Leon Mk3, and current one, a Cupra Ateca)

This system uses the rear radars mounted inside of the both sides of rear bumper. Another feature that uses those radars is the Side Assist (also called Blind Spot Monitoring) and it works well, I don't have a problem with it.

While looking at the Terramar's parts illustrations in the online parts catalog, I saw that some models have two front radars on the sides of the front bumper, just like the rear ones. I guess the one on the same side with the passing car on that roundabout is the culprit of your problem. Its predefined sensing range is probably too wide and the car that has just passed falls in that range. Such a situation was/is never a problem with centrally mounted single radars.

Now, I'm not sure whether your Terramar has two front radars but I suggest you to check the driver assistance options list, by pushing the driver assist button and bringing up the list on the central display of your instrument cluster. (That button in my Ateca is at the tip of the left column stalk, yours should have one too, somewhere around there if not the same place) When that scrollable list comes up on the display, check if there's any variant of the front collision, front assist, front traffic or something like that. I'm not suggesting to turn the front collision warning off completely, I'm just wondering if there are any switchable secondary option there, other than the main straight-on collision avoidance, as it is for the rear radar functions: You can turn off that annoying rear traffic alert, but keep the blind spot monitoring on. My thinking is that if your car has two radars on the front and this is also the case for front radars, that secondary function might be turned off.

Sorry for the long post, hope I have managed to explain it well enough. There may be a slight chance that I happen to be right, but no harm in checking, I guess.

Regards,
Serdar

 

[CosmicBlue]

After no incidents since posted on this have a had a couple of back to back occurrences and completely different profile.

Stationary at roundabout with fast moving cars coming from right, so quick getaway needed, a roundabout very used to, and where you judge the car passing and briskly hit the gap. It seems the Terramar does not like a car in its vision as you boot the accelerator, even if its quite far away, travelling at speed and be well gone by time I get there. Result is that as soon as push pedal the full on collision assist stops me before even crept a yard.

Do not even think a full on launch would get me anywhere near a car passing in front of me, so this is a good example of hypersensitivity of the system.

Going to see if just mitigate my driving style to car passing is a little further on negates this, but if happens again, will have to book in garage.

Was seriously considering a 265PS AWD Terramar as replacement for my 2019 Golf R but this has me cooling my heels a little, which is a shame as 100% loving everything else about the Terramar.

I have a 265PS AWD Terramar - it is a cracking vehicle, drives like an Audi should, quiet and super refined. The Collision Avoidance thing is a pain but easily mitigated in less that 10 seconds after you start the car - Vehicle/Driver Assist/Scroll right once/Front Assist - and turn the sliders off (inside the app, not all of Front Assist as that produces a dash error). The system still detects a potentially hazardous event but just pings the red warning display and alarm on the dash but doesn't activate the brakes.

 

[Tell]

The pre flight procedures that people report. I wondered what they were talking about when I first read it. Stop start off, then lane assist, then front assist . I posted up my favourite YouTube channel with the well healed guy flying his family passenger get across America. That one has a built in Garmin check list you go through, check the parachute is OK, feed in your flight plan, brief the passengers of the route, make the wiggly sign to the ground crew and taxi off. We need the built in check list.