Virtual cockpit without navigator

[Mrtalb]

I have a Cupra Raval without the built-in navigation system. I managed to display Google Maps from Android Auto on the Virtual Cockpit (see the photo), but I must have changed some setting because now I can't get it to appear anymore. Has anyone else had the same problem?
The map used to be mirrored from Android Auto onto the Virtual Cockpit, but now it only shows "Map unavailable." Has anyone found a solution?

 

[Tell]

Suspect you tried the trusty reboot of holding the infotainment button till it forces a reboot. That's if it support that long established way of forcing the system to reboot in AAOS.

The other thing to try on the Android phone side is to delete the cache on the Google maps / Android Auto side, failing that the data. That would be via Settings and App on your phone.

AAOS on the car you expect to be locked down and not amenable to meddling. Clearing the two above should break the setup so you might be able to reset it up again or somewhere on AAOS you might have a user reset as opposed to anything more traumatic which would be behind the developers menu. You keep tapping on the car the build code on settings... it be known on other brands to work.

 

[serdar_18fr]

I managed to display Google Maps from Android Auto on the Virtual Cockpit

What do you mean by "managed" ?
If the car has no built-in navigation, maps are not supposed to show up on instrument cluster, I believe. What did you do in the first place ?

 

[Tell]

What do you mean by "managed" ?
If the car has no built-in navigation, maps are not supposed to show up on instrument cluster, I believe. What did you do in the first place ?

Good question. The built in navigation is suppose to inform regenerative braking in an EV so if there is no built in navigation which in Vags approach uses Here Maps then how does it do it. Perhaps the maps are built in but just doesn't show them. Thats predictive regenerative braking.

In the ID4 anyhow.

https://media.vw.com/releases/1455

I know people have a love hate relationship with the cars built in maps but they serve a purpose in predictive regenerative braking.

 

[serdar_18fr]

Perhaps the maps are built in but just doesn't show them.

That's possible, I guess. In my Cupra Ateca's MIB3, the software was there, the hardware was there and the map data was there, but it didn't have the license to use them as a navigation system. It was just waiting to be activated.

But in this case, what surprises me is that the photo shows Google Maps on the instrument cluster, not Here Maps. And to confuse the things further, AI gives mixed information, telling in a response that the MIB4's built-in navigation system in the Raval uses Google Maps, then telling it uses Here Maps in another, and also telling it uses TomTom, Here and also Google, depending on the trim/packages bought.

So, I'm curious about what the original poster has done to get that cluster showing Google Maps.

 

[Tell]

That's possible, I guess. In my Cupra Ateca's MIB3, the software was there, the hardware was there and the map data was there, but it didn't have the license to use them as a navigation system. It was just waiting to be activated.

But in this case, what surprises me is that the photo shows Google Maps on the instrument cluster, not Here Maps. And to confuse the things further, AI gives mixed information, telling in a response that the MIB4's built-in navigation system in the Raval uses Google Maps, then telling it uses Here Maps in another, and also telling it uses TomTom, Here and also Google, depending on the trim/packages bought.

So, I'm curious about what the original poster has done to get that cluster showing Google Maps.

Well AAOS on Vag run Here Maps built in for navigation but the unit will also marry up to Car Play and Android Auto, so if you are using maps from those source they get projected onto the screen but they wont be used for predictive regenerative braking, that will come from the Here Maps implementation knowing height, bends and maximum / average road speed. They wont have bothered to use any mapping source from Android Auto / Car Play for that.

I must look at the Italian Raval website to check that a non navigation unit is being sold as we are told.

 

[Tell]

I did have another idea of what would happen if you profiled another driver in the car, since if it was the infotainment fault, a new profile would allow you to match the phone back up to the car as a new user and see whether it happened again.

 

[Mrtalb]

I did have another idea of what would happen if you profiled another driver in the car, since if it was the infotainment fault, a new profile would allow you to match the phone back up to the car as a new user and see whether it happened again.

Hi, I can confirm that even without the factory navigation system, I can display Google Maps on the Digital Cockpit (as you can see in the photo). The only issue is that it often disappears for no apparent reason. However, today I managed to get it to show up again by switching to another user and then switching back to my profile.