ACC pack (Automatic City brake (Front Assist) with Pedestrian Protection & Stop&Go)

[jambo]

Hi,

Im looking at a 2017 Leon ST 184 DSG with the Advanced Comfort & Driving Pack 2.

This includes....

Advanced Comfort & Driving Pack2
/ Driving assistance pack 2 (high beam Assist, Lane Assist & Traffic
sign recognition) +
/ ACC pack (Automatic City brake (Front Assist) w/ Pedestrian
Protection & Stop&Go) +
/ Traffic Jam Assist
/ Emergency Assist
Includes Convenience Pack Plus DSG Models Only


My question is, "does the 'Stop&Go' function allow the adaptive cruise control to stop and start automatically in traffic jams so the car continues to drive without resetting the adaptive cruise control"?

 

[JACUPRA280]

Hi,

Im looking at a 2017 Leon ST 184 DSG with the Advanced Comfort & Driving Pack 2.

This includes....

Advanced Comfort & Driving Pack2
/ Driving assistance pack 2 (high beam Assist, Lane Assist & Traffic
sign recognition) +
/ ACC pack (Automatic City brake (Front Assist) w/ Pedestrian
Protection & Stop&Go) +
/ Traffic Jam Assist
/ Emergency Assist
Includes Convenience Pack Plus DSG Models Only


My question is, "does the 'Stop&Go' function allow the adaptive cruise control to stop and start automatically in traffic jams so the car continues to drive without resetting the adaptive cruise control"?

No, ACC does not do that. You have to come to a stop by yourself. Or, you could be very brave and not do that.

 

[dw911]

Hi,

Im looking at a 2017 Leon ST 184 DSG with the Advanced Comfort & Driving Pack 2.

This includes....

Advanced Comfort & Driving Pack2
/ Driving assistance pack 2 (high beam Assist, Lane Assist & Traffic
sign recognition) +
/ ACC pack (Automatic City brake (Front Assist) w/ Pedestrian
Protection & Stop&Go) +
/ Traffic Jam Assist
/ Emergency Assist
Includes Convenience Pack Plus DSG Models Only


My question is, "does the 'Stop&Go' function allow the adaptive cruise control to stop and start automatically in traffic jams so the car continues to drive without resetting the adaptive cruise control"?

Do you mean can you sit and do nothing whilst in stop go traffic jam
If the car comes to a complete stop you need to push the accelerator slightly to get it moving again, but it will stop and go etc in slow moving traffic.
Seat might sell more add ons if they actually promoted what they do properly

 

[MyLeon]

The ACC on my 2015 FR DSG will bring the car to a complete stop in traffic queues, but only hold it for 3 seconds. After that the ACC cancels itself and the brakes release and it starts to creep forwards so you need to put your foot on the brakes. As soon as you release the brakes and start creeping forwards you can pull the ACC level towards you and the system takes over again.
A word of warning though...
If you don't (or forget) to pull the lever and you just let the car creep forwards it will continue to creep into the back of the car in front! It's easy to do if you have done 20 stop/go cycles in a queue and are distracted by 'Tracy' in a convertible Mini in the next lane!
(Sorry any Tracys out there)


2015 Leon ST FR 184 DSG

 

[jambo]

So am I right in saying that the 'ACC pack (Automatic City brake (Front Assist) w/ Pedestrian
Protection & Stop&Go) +' does keep you driving through a traffic jam but you need to tap the accelerator to re-engage the ACC?

Do you actually have the 'ACC pack (Automatic City brake (Front Assist) w/ Pedestrian
Protection & Stop&Go)' additional to the normal adaptive cruise control?

 

[MyLeon]

I have normal adaptive cruise control.
I think the later systems have the 'stop and go' function but I'm not 100% sure so don't take my word for it.
SEAT and Forest Gump's chocolate box have a lot in common!


2015 Leon ST FR 184 DSG

 

[jambo]

Cheers

 

[MyLeon]

Reading you first post again you say it has traffic jam assist, so I'd say that it will do more than my basic system does. I don't know if you have to tap the accelerator each time or not as I've never used this sort of system.
I think the ACC on my car is brilliant so this newer system must be even better!


2015 Leon ST FR 184 DSG

 

[kazand]

I had a Golf recently with this on. In traffic it will slow to a stop, but then required a touch on the accelerator to start moving again.

 

[Greiss]

The new leon has traffic jam assist, car is able to stop and start moving again on its own and keep in lane (I think to 30km/h)

 

[Redline]

If already on the topic:

Does the car brake to complete stop if Front Assist is on or will it smash into the rear of another car?

 

[dw911]

If already on the topic:

Does the car brake to complete stop if Front Assist is on or will it smash into the rear of another car?

Yes or that's the hope.
The version the op Is talking about will also steer to some extent
Hopefully another few years and we'll be able to take a snooze on the boring bits of a trip

Edit , just noticed Greiss had already stated it has the ability to stay in lane for you

 

[dw911]

I had a Golf recently with this on. In traffic it will slow to a stop, but then required a touch on the accelerator to start moving again.

Yep, this is much more sensible than the original seat acc, that will move off on its own after 3 seconds and cancel acc, who thought that was a good idea

 

[kazand]

Yep, this is much more sensible than the original seat acc, that will move off on its own after 3 seconds and cancel acc, who thought that was a good idea

didn't like it tbh. Prefer standard cruise, found the Golf boring to drive .

 

[dw911]

didn't like it tbh. Prefer standard cruise, found the Golf boring to drive .

Do you mean the standard seat cc or the original seat acc ?
I liked the vw one in traffic especially in 4 hour traffic jams on a motorway - thanks smart motorways -
Never really used standard cc in any car apart from for going through road works with average speed moneybox's

 

[kazand]

Do you mean the standard seat cc or the original seat acc ?
I liked the vw one in traffic especially in 4 hour traffic jams on a motorway - thanks smart motorways -
Never really used standard cc in any car apart from for going through road works with average speed moneybox's

work motor has adaptive, which I'm not too keen on. Do a lot of long mway journeys ( Brum to Hull, Newcastle, Speyside etc) so use cruise a lot, prefer the 'original' type cruise. Although, to be fair, I've not used current one as much, so maybe I'll grow to like it with time.
Leon has 'standard' cruise, wasn't bothered about having adaptive , wife wouldn't use it in any case. Both cars manual btw.

 

[dw911]

work motor has adaptive, which I'm not too keen on. Do a lot of long mway journeys ( Brum to Hull, Newcastle, Speyside etc) so use cruise a lot, prefer the 'original' type cruise. Although, to be fair, I've not used current one as much, so maybe I'll grow to like it with time.
Leon has 'standard' cruise, wasn't bothered about having adaptive , wife wouldn't use it in any case. Both cars manual btw.

Yes it's not so useful on manual, I've only used it a couple of times on a manual, but really comes in to its own when combined with the dsg gearbox.
Well in my opinion, maybe I'm just getting lazy

 

[kazand]

Yes it's not so useful on manual, I've only used it a couple of times on a manual, but really comes in to its own when combined with the dsg gearbox.
Well in my opinion, maybe I'm just getting lazy

had some fun with the Golf, was showing how the ACC worked to a colleague by following a bus along a fast A road. Set cruise at 65, followed bus at 40-50. Bus then turns off onto unclassified road , as we did ( it was where we were heading to) speed of bus then drops to 25-35ish. Golf follows suit.then bus goes round a 90degree bend, road is on the coast (literally) radar sees nothing ahead ( only a steep drop and some sand... ) and WHA HEY off we go.... At least the brakes work... and yes, before anyone states the bl33din obvious, I know you are not meant to use cruise on narrow twisty roads etc etc

 

[milnei]

I used to always use my normal cruise control as much as possible on my previous cars, but was always a pain having to manually modulate the set speed to account for slower traffic in front.

Absolutely LOVE the ACC system I have now, however the only place (for me) that it's not so great is on motorways as it seems to over-react to slower traffic in the lane in front of you (even on the min distance setting), making it difficult to smoothly overtake traffic by timing your lane change to suit traffic in the adjacent lane.

For example, quiet motorway, in lane 1 set at 70mph and in the distance you see a truck doing 60. You need to move into lane 2 with a good few 100 yards to spare as the ACC will start to slow you down a bit earlier than necessary.

But everywhere else it's great, especially in 30s, 40s and 50s where you can concentrate on what's going on without worrying about speeding.

 

[MyLeon]

For example, quiet motorway, in lane 1 set at 70mph and in the distance you see a truck doing 60. You need to move into lane 2 with a good few 100 yards to spare as the ACC will start to slow you down a bit earlier than

Are you in Eco driving mode? If so, then the ACC seems to start to back off as soon as it sees a vehicle ahead, regardless off the following distance set. In Normal or Sport mode it waits until you reach the set distance and then slows quite quickly.
At least that's what mine does.
Regardless of that, I think is a huge step up from my previous car's standard cruise control. With that I seemed to be constantly adjusting the speed with my thumb instead of my foot!



2015 Leon ST FR 184 DSG