Another HID Question...

[matthab]

Hi Guys

After having another front bulb go on me tonight (same side in a month). Ive decided to buy a HID set. Ive looked at the ones on HIDS4U (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-35w-ultimate-xenon-hid-conversion-kit.html) and have some questions:

* Is that the correct kit and are my headlights projector or reflector?
* Anything better out there?
* Whats the law on them as my mates swift is hideously bright and is uncomfortable to be in front of his car on the road?
*How easy are they to install?

Cheers
Matt

 

[Jim H]

Hi Guys
* Whats the law on them as my mates swift is hideously bright and is uncomfortable to be in front of his car on the road?
Matt

Retro-fitting HID kits to normal headlights is illegal. http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

You need projector headlights, headlight washers and auto-levelling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw

 

[toledojohn]

Projector headlights have absolutely nothing to do with the requirements for HID's.

You need a headlight unit designed for HID's, which can be reflector.

A set of aftermarket projector headlights designed for Halogen bulbs do not meet requirements.

 

[FR_MATT]

you need h7r bulbs which were designed to go in reflector headlights in renault.

To be strictly legal you would need headlight washers or auto levelling, but you will find many dont without any trouble so long as you adjust them correctly to begin with.

 

[toledojohn]

H7R bulbs don't cover it either, the headlight unit must be designed for HID's.

As said though, these things are never picked up on.

 

[thePHILosipher]

i actually spoke to my dealer regarding HID's as i have my MOT with them, the only thing they asked was if i had headlight washers on the car, which thankfully i do, even tho they dont actually work

as far as auto levelling is concerned what they said was since it has the adjuster switch thats ample for most MOT testers

 

[kidinspace]

I've just taken my HID's out and sold them as the beam pattern I was getting wasn't up to my standard, also removed the LED sidelights and went back to normal as far as lights where concerned.
Never had any issues with MOT's / the law for the whole 18 months or whatever length of time I had them in there.

.G.

 

[Jim H]

Projector headlights have absolutely nothing to do with the requirements for HID's.

You need a headlight unit designed for HID's, which can be reflector.

A set of aftermarket projector headlights designed for Halogen bulbs do not meet requirements.

After reading through threads on Briskoda to find that video, you are right they don't have to be projectors. It's just most OEM HIDs use them. I think the Civic doesn't, but uses specially designed reflector headlights.

Not owning a Seat myself, did the Mk4 Ibiza have HIDs as an optional extra? I know the Fabia I did.

 

[matthab]

If I was to fit them it would be the H7R kit and I will have a MOT station adjust them to keep them from being to bad.

Dont want to atract attention to my self as my car is more than capable of doing that atm. Just looking for something better than the stock lights.

Im also looking at the Osram Nightbreakers as on ebay under £20 for the pair fells like a better alternative to HIDS?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OSRAM-H7-NIGH...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c58310de8

 

[DEAN0]

If I was to fit them it would be the H7R kit and I will have a MOT station adjust them to keep them from being to bad.

Dont want to atract attention to my self as my car is more than capable of doing that atm. Just looking for something better than the stock lights.

Im also looking at the Osram Nightbreakers as on ebay under £20 for the pair fells like a better alternative to HIDS?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OSRAM-H7-NIGH...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c58310de8

I have tried "Nightbreakers" in my Honda Blackbird before I went to HID.

The nightbreakers even when adjusted are like candles compared to a properly adjusted HID.

 

[Jim H]

Im also looking at the Osram Nightbreakers as on ebay under £20 for the pair fells like a better alternative to HIDS?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OSRAM-H7-NIGH...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c58310de8

From what I've read the old Nightbreakers does exactly what their name says "Break at Night". Some people have found they only last for 3 months or so.

Philips X-tremes have better life, although Osram's new Nightbreakers (NightBreaker Plus) clam to last 50% longer.

 

[kidinspace]

From what I've read the old Nightbreakers does exactly what their name says "Break at Night". Some people have found they only last for 3 months or so.

Philips X-tremes have better life, although Osram's new Nightbreakers (NightBreaker Plus) clam to last 50% longer.

I had nightbreakers before the HID's and they did only last about 4 months!
Now using Halfrauds extreme brilliance blue, seem fine so far.

.G.

 

[Neo]

Hi Guys

After having another front bulb go on me tonight (same side in a month). Ive decided to buy a HID set. Ive looked at the ones on HIDS4U (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-35w-ultimate-xenon-hid-conversion-kit.html) and have some questions:

* Is that the correct kit and are my headlights projector or reflector?
* Anything better out there?
* Whats the law on them as my mates swift is hideously bright and is uncomfortable to be in front of his car on the road?
*How easy are they to install?

Cheers
Matt

You don`t need the ultimate kit because your car does`nt have can-bus wiring... the 35w slim kit will be perfect for you. I will give you a discount code if you want (knocks 20% off).

Nothing better out there I`ve tried a few kits in my time, the ballasts are quite generic but their H7R bulbs are the ONLY ones that actually work - all other H7R`s are pants and don`t reduce glare or improve the beam at all.

I`m not touching the law issue, do with them what you will.

They are easy to fit if you have a little knowledge, their kits come with good instructions too.

If you go with one of their kits then definately get the H7R bulbs, well worth it. And 5000k is the best for a OEM look, trust me... I had mine in for a year.

 

[matthab]

You don`t need the ultimate kit because your car does`nt have can-bus wiring... the 35w slim kit will be perfect for you. I will give you a discount code if you want (knocks 20% off).

Nothing better out there I`ve tried a few kits in my time, the ballasts are quite generic but their H7R bulbs are the ONLY ones that actually work - all other H7R`s are pants and don`t reduce glare or improve the beam at all.

I`m not touching the law issue, do with them what you will.

They are easy to fit if you have a little knowledge, their kits come with good instructions too.

If you go with one of their kits then definately get the H7R bulbs, well worth it. And 5000k is the best for a OEM look, trust me... I had mine in for a year.

Thanks for the advice. Im now looking at the slim kit looks easy enough to fit in and around the light cluster. Have you got the 20% discount code I could use?

Matt

 

[thePHILosipher]

in answer to your question about the legality of HID's, well legally they are fine....ish, BUUUT if your MOT tester is being a **** he will fail you, as thats what happened to me today, its no biggy just make sure you got a spare pair of normal bulbs to bung in lol

 

[mick-fr]

You don`t need the ultimate kit because your car does`nt have can-bus wiring... the 35w slim kit will be perfect for you. I will give you a discount code if you want (knocks 20% off).

Nothing better out there I`ve tried a few kits in my time, the ballasts are quite generic but their H7R bulbs are the ONLY ones that actually work - all other H7R`s are pants and don`t reduce glare or improve the beam at all.

I`m not touching the law issue, do with them what you will.

They are easy to fit if you have a little knowledge, their kits come with good instructions too.

If you go with one of their kits then definately get the H7R bulbs, well worth it. And 5000k is the best for a OEM look, trust me... I had mine in for a year.

Am I excused? Mine actually produce less glare than standard and mine arent HIDS4U

Oh, that picture also shows the comparison between Osram Nightbreakers and my 6k H7R HID

 

[mick-fr]

in answer to your question about the legality of HID's, well legally they are fine....ish, BUUUT if your MOT tester is being a **** he will fail you, as thats what happened to me today, its no biggy just make sure you got a spare pair of normal bulbs to bung in lol

No luck mate, atleast you had (I presume) normal bulbs to throw in!

Dads mate owning the MOT station? Ive never had any problems

 

[Neo]

Am I excused? Mine actually produce less glare than standard and mine arent HIDS4U

Oh, that picture also shows the comparison between Osram Nightbreakers and my 6k H7R HID

Fair enough Mick... me and my opinions getting me into trouble again! And you keeping me in check again! haha!

It`s fair comment, as you can see that your H7R`s do reduce glare compared to the halogens and yes, any H7R will be an improvement over H7 hids as any reduction in output pattern is an improvement.

I`ll stick to saying hids4u have the best H7R`s though as they do a better job of keeping the beam low and wide, just like oem hids... also you get an improved main beam with them because you adjust your lights upward after fitting, so the main is thrown further down the road.

I`ll shut up now.

 

[matthab]

Im waiting till xmas is over then ill sort it. Ive had a issue this week where the car has blown a 1 month old dipped bulb or intermittently turn off and on on the same side. So didnt want to add HIDS to what maybe a looming issue.

However I bought on BOGOF Halfords Super Bight dipped bulbs and they have made a great improvement and so far the car hasnt been an issue. So hopefully its shite bulbs.

Sadly thoe my headlights are steaming up so im waiting for a dry day to hair dryer them.

Cheers for the help greatly appreciated.

 

[mick-fr]

Fair enough Mick... me and my opinions getting me into trouble again! And you keeping me in check again! haha!

It`s fair comment, as you can see that your H7R`s do reduce glare compared to the halogens and yes, any H7R will be an improvement over H7 hids as any reduction in output pattern is an improvement.

I`ll stick to saying hids4u have the best H7R`s though as they do a better job of keeping the beam low and wide, just like oem hids... also you get an improved main beam with them because you adjust your lights upward after fitting, so the main is thrown further down the road.

I`ll shut up now.

Haha! Im just kidding mate, I do agree with what your saying
Ive seen quite a few other 'R' kits that have been no different to the normal kits, throwing the beam everywhere. I think I was just lucky