Anyone come from a CTR to a LCR?

[Eat The Rich]

I've just sold my '04 Civic Type R... I loved it to bits but I just fancied a change...

Struggling to weigh up what I thought of the LCR to be honest... so much different to what I'm used to. I was almost set on getting a 231 RX8 but my mate came round in his '01 Ibiza Cupra the other day and I loved it - reminded me of that more raw feel I had from my GTi... anyway, he had it Revo'd and it's damn quick... that's why I'm thinking maybe a LCR? Then maybe even Revo it? I love RX8's and I'm nowhere near decided yet but thinking now I might not be ready for such a more 'mature' car ya know....

I was aiming to spend up to £13k on an '04 fully loaded RX8 with warranty remaining but now maybe thinking I could spend £12k on a LCR

How much would I be looking for a decent '05 LCR?

Ideas and suggestions welcome... hopefully not too biased

Cheers guys

 

[flares]

They are selling for about £13k in my area , there seems to be quite a few 150bhp cupra diesels as well . What are the service intervals on the rx8 , I know mazda have a rep for being expensive

 

[RobM]

I didn't own one, but it was a serious contender when I was looking for a new car. And my previous car was a Celica, so I know about high-revving jap engines

What swayed it for me was the flexibility of the LCR. I can pootle along the motorway nice and comfortably, quietly, without any hassle at all. In 6th gear at motorway speeds, foot down to overtake and the torque carries you along. Then you can settle back down to normal speeds again with no hassle, no gear change, no drama.

But then on the way home you might decide you're in a frisky mood and up for a bit of a blast. No problem, the LCR can be revved all day long, is fast as hell, rewards you if you get it right and drive well and is fast enough to put one hell of a smile on your face

But the point is, you don't need to rev the nutts off it to get it to go anywhere. The massive torque can be used in any gear at any revs, so no need for sudden down changes to get up to speed

But power aside, it's easy to live with, can be as calm or as mental as you want it to be, it's practical, fun and not too bad to maintain.

Ticks all my boxes anyway

 

[hamps_w]

I had a 231 RX-8. Unless your best freind owns Esso i wouldnt bother- i have a small child and dont drive heavy footed all the time, even so i still on managed 18mpg with urban driving. Dont get me wrong it was a lovely car. Nice to look at (in my opinion), and a nice drive (doors are a little gimmicky). But the performance really didnt match the running costs. Not only that the depreciation is terrible. The man i bought it from had lost 10k in 1.5 years of ownership. I also had a 190 celica and a CRX SiR. So im used to the high revving jap engines too.

Trouble with them is you really do need to drive them hard for abit of poke. The LCR on the other hand is a much easier drive with a much more immediate response. I really have been impressed. And would be sad to see mine go.

Which as it hapens is for Sale. Have a look at my add! (Shamless plug)

it could be exactly what your after!

 

[Vtec220]

I made the move from CTR to LCR - the Type R was a hoot to drive on anything but long journeys - the six speed box was a pleasure to use, I thought it would be awkward being in that unusual position but it felt very natural. The Leon Cupra R is a more relaxed drive - you can pootle along in comfort and then the power and torque is there when you want to have a bit of fun - effortless for overtaking and that is where the CTRs lack of torque lets it down - I know I would miss the torque now if I went back to a Honda but they are good fun. The LCR is underrated in my opinion - only those in the know would be aware of their capabilities - they look menacing but in a stealthy way .

Just re read your post and you have owned a CTR so you will obviously know all about driving them - just thought I would share my experience of owning one!

 

[Snoopie]

I am now looking to move from an LCR to a CTR. I've driven the CTR a few times now, and love the car more than I can love the LCR. The LCR just doesn't do what I want of it.

 

[Vtec220]

I am now looking to move from an LCR to a CTR. I've driven the CTR a few times now, and love the car more than I can love the LCR. The LCR just doesn't do what I want of it.

What do you want from the LCR that you`re not getting out of it?

 

[Number86]

A skinny arse

 

[Snoopie]

What do you want from the LCR that you`re not getting out of it?

The car 'was' a nice car to drive. But the power delivery on the standard car was too smooth, too soft, I've read a lot of reviews about it, and when watching video's about it..... I.e. Tiff Needell points out, it's a great car, but your not going very quick'
That was around a track, I know it might be a different situation on the road, of course it would be. But the grip is useless, FWD traction etc, the turning circle...

Ok, the CTR is still FWD, but I found as the power is at the top end, your less likely to spin the wheels low down, for a quick get off, etc. Not that's what I'd be doing all the time.

Each to their own. But for me, I find the CTR is a better hot hatch.

 

[Mitchy]

I went from a CTR to an impreza to LCR.

I only had the CTR for 5-6 months and didn't really like it much tbh. It had no air con, no front fogs, the standard trim was just that, basic.

Then you had to drop it 2-3 gears to get it to go anywhere quickly. If 'racemode' was on, the car you were up against always had an advantage as by the time you had dropped 3 gears, the other car was off.

Motorway journeys are irritating and noisy due to the high revving nature and the image has gone quite down hill now. They are 2 a penny on every street corner. It drunk oil somehow It wheelspins worse than the LCR in 1st gear, no esp helping out.

Tuning options are limited, you need to spend a few grand to get 25bhp/20lbft, when a £500 remap on a turbo car will gain you 50bhp/80lbft.

Dont think much of the new model either

RX8's are nice cars, but you've got the same high revving nature. LCR is a good choice, well equipped, easily tuned and looks better than the CTR. A lot more aggressive looking

Good luck though

 

[Snoopie]

There's not that much Fog down in London. Therefore I don't need to drive around with my front Fog's on ....
I'm looking at a Premier edition, which comes with Recaro's, Air-Con as standard etc.
I'm afraid, once your past the... 'I want to be the fastest car on the road' you'll somewhat over look the tuning.
The turn-in felt better, higher speed handling felt more stable, less wind noise etc. I presume I like the high revving nature.

 

[Mitchy]

Premier edition is not what i had, so i have no idea why you thought you'd tell me what version you were going for? Totally irrelevant

My point was the standard cars basic features never included simple things like front fogs/aircon etc, and that compared with the LCR was under equipped.

I have owned a CTR and have given my opinion on it, more than some

If you dont like your LCR, then get rid of it, simple

People always whinge about the LCR's handling but have you driven and felt the CTR snoopie? Its handling takes quite a bit of getting used too.

I remember the top gear comparison around its circuit,

CTR 1:32.8
LCR 1:32.9

LCR handling was always slated, and magazine reviews always had the civic on top on track but the above results, there was nothing in it at all.

 

[nibbles]

I had LC 180 and test drove a ctr ok but couldn,t stand having to rev its n*ts off to get it anywhere.so after trying allsorts of cars i plumped for the LCR 225 with a bit of REVO and i have noticed people ars starting to catch on to these cars now.

 

[bandit77]

i work at a honda garage and have driven the CTR - (obviously)... im not a fan of it at all, i think the LCR is much nicer finished off inside, and has much more tuning potential. i really dont like having to rev the civic so hard for the power. if i had the choice between the LCR though and the RX8 it would be a hard one as i do like the mazda... which ive also driven... would prob have to have the leon though i think.... maybe hehe

 

[Mitchy]

RX8 is a really nice car, i do like them

They have a hairdresser/estate agent image tagged to them though

Funnily enough my estate agent does have an RX8

 

[jhlcr]

all depends what you want in a car, the lcr is fast at getting from a to b without trying, the ctr more fun as you have to really be trying, more of a drivers car, but they are ten a penny, and for fun always thought the 182 was better, and as fast.

 

[Snoopie]

Premier edition is not what i had, so i have no idea why you thought you'd tell me what version you were going for? Totally irrelevant

My point was the standard cars basic features never included simple things like front fogs/aircon etc, and that compared with the LCR was under equipped.

I have owned a CTR and have given my opinion on it, more than some

If you dont like your LCR, then get rid of it, simple

People always whinge about the LCR's handling but have you driven and felt the CTR snoopie? Its handling takes quite a bit of getting used too.

I remember the top gear comparison around its circuit,

CTR 1:32.8
LCR 1:32.9

LCR handling was always slated, and magazine reviews always had the civic on top on track but the above results, there was nothing in it at all.

In reference to why I told you what model I'm going for. Is because you said they don't come with anything as standard. So I'd thought I'd let you know about another incorrect statement you've made by telling you about a certain model
You seem to be stubborn enough, not to read other peoples post, and talk about things you've heard down the pub.
Read through what I've said again. 'Yes!' I have driven the CTR. (YES) Just incase you miss that one aswell.
Again, reading through the post, you'll see the word 'Was' which also refers too... I have got rid of it.

 

[Dennis]

i bought our lassa 04 CTR new or her 30th.

It had fog, aircon parking sensors etc.

I was far from impressd withthe build quality. I went through 21 alloy wheels until I got adecent set of 4.

The windscreen started to fall out at 120 (in Europe)

Heater motor packed in

Central locking went awol every now and then.

Trim marked very easy

Seats wore badly (our lass is a size 10 so not because whe is lardy and she knows how to get into seats)

The dealers were also pants (that hasn't changed since getting a SEAT lol)

Re the car, it was a lot harder to drive. My othr car is an Elise so I understand about seam of the pants driving butthe CTR was hard work if you wanted a quick turn of speed.

It was a nice car at the time but does not seem to be standing the test of time as well as the LCR

We swapped ot a LCR after 8 months!

The LCR is much nicer, but still raw car to drive (but I do miss the high gear stick) the build qulity is a little better and it seems more grown up but still fun.

The brakes are also better.

And SEATCUPRA.net are friendlier than the Honda club I joined.

LCR beets the CTR in

 

[Snoopie]

i bought our lassa 04 CTR new or her 30th.

It had fog, aircon parking sensors etc.

I was far from impressd withthe build quality. I went through 21 alloy wheels until I got adecent set of 4.

The windscreen started to fall out at 120 (in Europe)

Heater motor packed in

Central locking went awol every now and then.

Trim marked very easy

Seats wore badly (our lass is a size 10 so not because whe is lardy and she knows how to get into seats)

The dealers were also pants (that hasn't changed since getting a SEAT lol)

Re the car, it was a lot harder to drive. My othr car is an Elise so I understand about seam of the pants driving butthe CTR was hard work if you wanted a quick turn of speed.

It was a nice car at the time but does not seem to be standing the test of time as well as the LCR

We swapped ot a LCR after 8 months!

The LCR is much nicer, but still raw car to drive (but I do miss the high gear stick) the build qulity is a little better and it seems more grown up but still fun.

The brakes are also better.

And SEATCUPRA.net are friendlier than the Honda club I joined.

LCR beets the CTR in

Sounds like you enjoyed yours!

 

[Mitchy]

Why you still here snoopie if you have got rid of LCR? Your contributing nothing more than starting arguments.

I have owned both, simple as and can offer advice on this subject. Dont need to go down the pub to talk about my car buddy, i know fine well what it can and cannot do

On another note, there are a couple of good videos around made by 1 of the members on here comparing LCR and CTR on autobahn
Not sure if they are still here, but do a search

You'll not regret it mate, LCR is a good choice as is RX8