Anyone come from a CTR to a LCR?

[Snoopie]

I didn't realise your taking them so personal. And as insults. I see it, as pure Forum Banter. Why am I still here? Because I'm interested in Seats, and the cars they produce, plus I've made a few mates here.
I fail to see me being the arguementitive person. I'm not here, to win and arguement, I'm here to contribute to the forum.
After all, where would a forum be, without it's members?

 

[nibbles]

hand bags raised girls

 

[Snoopie]

Only Gucci Thanks. None of that Marks and Spencer's 10p recycler.

 

[Mitchy]

You're ruining another thread snoopie, your not contributing anything in this 1

Anyway ive had enough of this arguing malarky with you buddy, so signing off for the night

Back onto topic and like i've already stated you wont go far wrong with either of the cars you have listed

You not interested in the new breed of hatch? Astra VXR? Focus ST? Megane 225? Golf Gti? Remember LCR is getting a little dated now, its been around nearly 5 years already.

 

[Dennis]

Mazda 3 MPS, might be worth a look if you can cope with the styling, there again you are considering a RX8 so I doubt that is a problem LOL

The RX8 was good/different a couple of years back but now looking dated already and the engines do not last long before they start coting (but there again which quick ones don't)

 

[Number86]

The RX8 is lovely. I was considering that before I dropped my budget by 3 grand.
If somone had made that up I'd have gone with the RX8 all the way over the LCR I'm picking up ina few days

No you can't revo it, but it's great looking car, the interior is lovely and it handles like the sh1t!

 

[Eat The Rich]

Cheers for all the info guys... my Type R's gone now (he's just been to pick it up) so I'm in need of a car as soon as possible (although I'll wait as long as it takes to find 'the right one' ya know). Still very undecided between an RX8 and a LCR - they've both got obvious advantages and disadvantages over each other, here's a few points I've thought...

- The LCR will be easier to drive having all that torque whereas you'll rev the ass off the RX8 like a Type R (not a bad thing as such though, just different and I've already had that)
- The brakes on a LCR are awesome
- The RX8 will handle better...
- The LCR will be better on fuel (even with Revo stage 1?)

Trying to think a little practical (first time ever) and I'm asking myself do I need the RWD and all the handling package that comes with the RX8 or would I be happy with the LCR?

I said I wanted a 'different' car but they're both different on thr grounds that one's still a hatch but it's a turbo and the others still a high revving car but it's a RWD coupe... argh I dunno - maybe I need to drive another one of each!?

Cheers guys... this could be a tough one.

Seen a few nice LCR's on Pistonheads though, around £12k for a later 2004 with decent mileage... tempting cause I was thinking of spending £13k on an RX8 and that'd be a 53 or 04...

 

[Snoopie]

If I were in your shoes. Having had an LCR, I think the RX-8 is a suitable upgrade. Go for the RX-8

 

[RobM]

If you want a 'different' car, going for a high revving, N/A car might feel like more of the same after you've had it a while.

Going from N/A to turbo is quite a change and something you'll enjoy. It's also something you can keep playing with to get more power, if you like that sort of thing

I also think you'll get a better equipped, newer, lower mileage car for your money with the LCR. And if you're going to save on fuel and oil(!!!!) then it's a wise move in my opinion

 

[virdi]

I currently drive an LCR - But really do fancy a CTR....

I would love to have both!!

I have test driven a CTR a couple of times... and I loved the VTEC zone. What I really didn't like about the CTR was the road noise and the fact that the dashboard was very dull and basic....

IMO - The CTR doesn't feel solid like the LCR....

The other downside of the CTR is that you have to spend thousands on mods to get any real gains out of the engine....

 

[RobM]

I think if I were to have any of the VTEC engined cars as a second car, it would be the DC5. It would be nice to have a high-revving, screaming sports car like that occasionally, but day-to-day I much prefer the way the LCR drives.

 

[cobraman2007]

I can comment on this subject. I have driven an RX8 (quite a bit actually as my friend said "look after it while I go to Australia for the next month").

I dumped my MX5 in the garage for the month and used the RX8 for the four weeks my mate was away. It really is a great looking car and gets glances from everyone and it is no way dated in that respect as someone has said. The back doors are a bit gimmicky but getting into the back is a doddle. It was excellent to drive as well (almost as good as the MX5 around the bends) although the power out of corners was the thing I enjoyed best. If it rains though, don't bother going over 2mph around corners - it just doesn't like corners in the rain one bit. Other than that, it is a fantastic car. The inside is well put together and robust and I just enjoyed sitting in the car let alone driving it. It is dead comfortable and the equipment is vast and it has everything you could ever need.

Now you may be asking why I want a LCR over the RX8 then? Two words - "running costs". It gave about 15mpg when driven in town and around 20mpg when run on the motorway. I also had to change the oil once even though my mate said he would change it before he went to Australia (which he did as I was with him).

I first drove the car everyday for the first two weeks I had it and then realised I spent loads of time filling her up so I decided to use the MX5 for driving to work and back and used the RX8 sparingly on the remaining two weekends. I simply could never live with it on a day-to-day basis because it just costs too much to drive.

Please buy the LCR unless you own a petroleum plant somewhere or don't intend to drive it more than 50 miles per week. The renesis engine is a 1.3l but it drinks fuel like a 5.7l you find in a Corvette.

Cheers - Cobraman

 

[Snoopie]

I currently drive an LCR - But really do fancy a CTR....

I would love to have both!!

I have test driven a CTR a couple of times... and I loved the VTEC zone. What I really didn't like about the CTR was the road noise and the fact that the dashboard was very dull and basic....

IMO - The CTR doesn't feel solid like the LCR....

The other downside of the CTR is that you have to spend thousands on mods to get any real gains out of the engine....

How much is an IHI ?
How much is a supercharger from Jacksons racing for a CTR?

What are the final power results?

Now besides that....

I think the CTR is just a buzz of a drive.

 

[RobM]

Snoopie - I don't like to speak on behalf of somebody else, but the way I read virdi's post was the CTR is a lot more expensive to get decent gains out, in terms of bolt on mods.

With the LCR, when the novelty factor of all that power and torque has gone, you can spend £500 and release a bucket load more. You don't have that option with the CTR. A filter, exhaust system, manifolds, chip might release 10-20bhp tops, but will cost double if not tripple the price of a remap for the LCR.

When you get into IHI or Jackson SC kits territory, it really doesn't matter what car you're talking about as they all have those options available. Hell, I was tempted by the C2 Power Turbo kit for my Celica that costs IHI money

But in terms of curing that 'I need a bit more power' itch, the LCR is far easier, cheaper and more responsive to tuning.

 

[Snoopie]

Snoopie - I don't like to speak on behalf of somebody else, but the way I read virdi's post was the CTR is a lot more expensive to get decent gains out, in terms of bolt on mods.

With the LCR, when the novelty factor of all that power and torque has gone, you can spend £500 and release a bucket load more. You don't have that option with the CTR. A filter, exhaust system, manifolds, chip might release 10-20bhp tops, but will cost double if not tripple the price of a remap for the LCR.

When you get into IHI or Jackson SC kits territory, it really doesn't matter what car you're talking about as they all have those options available. Hell, I was tempted by the C2 Power Turbo kit for my Celica that costs IHI money

But in terms of curing that 'I need a bit more power' itch, the LCR is far easier, cheaper and more responsive to tuning.

Woops, Sorry.
If it's just bolt on modifications, I agree, the LCR is ahead. But let's put the two standard car's side by side. They are both well built, good looking, about the same to run, both as quick as the other etc.

I like them both to be honest, but I prefer the high revving engine, to a turbo.

Edit: I think an image go with the CTR's too...

 

[Eat The Rich]

Thanks again guys... still trying to weigh things up in my head. Yeah I know the whole 'turbo car' thing would be a load of fun cause I've never had it before (would it wear off quick though and get boring?). My mate works for a local place who deal REVO so I'd be getting REVO stage 1 if I got a LCR - anyone here got this? What's it like in comparison to standard?

My daily drives include 5 miles in traffic to work (thinking the Cupra R would be better than the RX8 then) and 12 miles home on the motorway (either just as good I guess). Other than that though, I don't drive 'that' much other than going out with mates etc... does this mean the whole capabilities of the RX8 (handling etc) would be a bit overkill for what I need? How does the LCR handle really?... Gotta drive another of each I think

 

[Snoopie]

Side by side in comparisons to a Remapped LCR vs a Standard one...
You'll see the remapped LCR pulling ahead, but not by huge amounts.

 

[RobM]

Thanks again guys... still trying to weigh things up in my head. Yeah I know the whole 'turbo car' thing would be a load of fun cause I've never had it before (would it wear off quick though and get boring?). My mate works for a local place who deal REVO so I'd be getting REVO stage 1 if I got a LCR - anyone here got this? What's it like in comparison to standard?

My daily drives include 5 miles in traffic to work (thinking the Cupra R would be better than the RX8 then) and 12 miles home on the motorway (either just as good I guess). Other than that though, I don't drive 'that' much other than going out with mates etc... does this mean the whole capabilities of the RX8 (handling etc) would be a bit overkill for what I need? How does the LCR handle really?... Gotta drive another of each I think

Standard Vs Remapped is an obvious difference. Imagine adding 40+bhp and 80lb.ft torque to your car, you're going to notice it

The turbo appeal doesn't wear off quickly. The fact it's so flexible in it's use ensures that. The high revving engine appeal wears off much quicker in my experience, as there are days where you really can't be bothered with it. That's why the Turbo appeal is so great. You can still make great progress with little effort. BUT... if you want to give the car a really good drive, you can still do so, using the entire rev range and working the gears just like you would in the CTR... just not as many revs

Motorway driving is the best bit in the LCR, as overtaking is effortless. Another reason why the turbo appeal doesn't wear off quickly

As for handling, the LCR is a heavy-ish car. Not stupidly so, but heavier than the CTR. It handles well, it tracks well too, usually at nigh-on the same times as the CTR so it's certainly not lacking in that department. But it can feel heavy at times on quick, twisty corners. Everything else though is fine. Longer corners, change of direction, B roads are all taken in it's stride once you know it's limits and capabilities. I've certainly not come into a situation where I've ever thought it didn't handle well enough, put it that way

 

[Jay20VT]

I know a bloke who is getting a CTR soon, might even get him to take me for a spin

 

[Snoopie]

I know a bloke who is getting a CTR soon, might even get him to take me for a spin

He might even agree! LOL ...