Appalling Range

[martdon2002]

Hello,
Anyone else disappointed with the appalling range from a full charge. Didn't expect what was advertised but still only getting 260 miles to a 100 percent charge, sitting with a scarf and hat on so not to use the heating. It's actually cheaper and i can get to and from places without worrying about refueling driving my diesel van.
Also trying to get above 70kw on a fast charger is impossible, not the 150kw as the car says it'll do.
Not impressed TBH

 

[Seastormer]

Hello,
Anyone else disappointed with the appalling range from a full charge. Didn't expect what was advertised but still only getting 260 miles to a 100 percent charge, sitting with a scarf and hat on so not to use the heating. It's actually cheaper and i can get to and from places without worrying about refueling driving my diesel van.
Also trying to get above 70kw on a fast charger is impossible, not the 150kw as the car says it'll do.
Not impressed TBH

Shocking, and they wonder why private buyers are ignoring EV's.

 

[The Groundsman]

The range is what I expected TBH for this time of year. My last EV managed around 20% less miles on a full charge in the winter compared to the summer and I think the Cupra is working out about the same.

I do agree about the charging speed. I remember reading it would only take 30 minutes to get up to a SOC of 80% but like you I haven't managed to get anything higher than 72kws from a rapid / ultra rapid charger ( 150 kw and 350kw)

 

[Tell]

Shocking, and they wonder why private buyers are ignoring EV's.

Well the initial price of EVs is high as they recover development costs and have aimed at the top end. Prices are falling but range will be an issue over ICE for some. Home charging where possible and runs within the ~ 240 miles isn't an issue if you keep them plugged in. Depends what you use them for keeping within the range no great issue, outside you'll be charging them up, cups of coffee and lunch breaks on route. Depends what your mix of driving is and whether you can home charge.

 

[andy2max]

I’ve recently had my Cupra Born, so smaller battery and range than your Tavascan. If your on a cheap tariff like octopus intelligent it seems like cheap motoring. We did our first long journey on the weekend, around 400 miles in total and was not inconvienced by it being electric. Although the weather was good this weekend, air con on all the time. On Sunday we stopped for breakfast and charged while eating, and drove around 200 miles, and got home without needing to charge again until overnight. I think it depends on your type of driving, if your doing long journeys everyday or can’t charge at home an EV is not right for you. In regard to the fast charging speed, I think you need to tell the battery to pre condition to get full 130kwh charging speed. We drove from our hotel to where we got breakfast which was about 10 minutes so not long enough to get faster than 77kwh charging speed.

 

[martdon2002]

Hi, I just do a normal commute to work sitting on the range setting, 100 miles per day on a motorway, i believe they will be great for in town commutes with very few miles which i think really they are aimed at as the infrastructure for charging is still poor and expensive.
Yes the car with pre heat says it will charge at 150kw but all the fast chargers i've tried will not get above 70kw. In comparison friends have teslas which are far more advanced and better range/charging speeds although they cost more to buy. Mine was pretty good on a lease through tax relief but I wouldn't buy one through the normal channels. Longer runs than my local commute I've been back in the diesel van.
I just don't think they are made for winter weather and long runs, i went out during the snow recently and every warning light flagged up on the dash, likely that the snow covered all of the sensors on the front of the car and with no heat from the engine it didn't melt. I can't home charge at the moment because i'm on a looped supply, they are working on getting the house unlooped but its a slow process, Another 10 years or so and this country may be ready for them....

 

[andy2max]

I must admit I didn’t get chance to try when the battery was warm enough to see if I would get over 70/80kwh on a fast charger so mine could be the same. I also haven’t been through the extremely cold weather yet so I may change my mind. Mine is through a salary sacrifice deal also, I don’t think I would be spending the money on buying one private. I’m lucky I don’t have a popped supply so get about 7.6kwh charging at home. Hope yours gets sorted soon

 

[Tell]

Unlooped... I'd ask what do you do about putting the electric cooker on .... if you had one. Have to time the Sunday roast so they don't clash. ?

I'm interested in the battery to power up the house in power cuts with the correct charger that includes an invertor. Living in the country the last power cut went on for 36hours. I could have done with the CH electrics powered off the car. Apparently it's popular in Ireland where they get similar trees down on power lines. When the car gets low you pop down to the nearest charger point and drive back home. Obviously you would not want to run an electric cooker off your Tavascan battery.

Round here there are a lot of EVs... perhaps know the reason why. Putting the buying cost to one side which is coming down they are good for "county driving" if you have a home charger. Longer jaunts you need to plan your charging stops on route. If are retired and you haven't got a need that takes you long distances, then ideal and have a home charging capability.... with that battery and invertor for power cut back up for the house. Well I could always have a couple of off grid batteries but the solar panels are on the garage roof so not having the drive dug up for a return path. The charger I'm told by the electricians that put the solar in would run off a spur to the outside meter box. That's my long term plan. I'm giving it 5 years.

Better give a link to the special chargers that have the invertor in them and I know the Tavascan has the capability to power backwards.

Well that's the Irish text for what EV owners were upto in the storms during power cuts:

EV owners using cars to power homes during outages

Electric vehicle owners have been using their cars as a power source in their homes during power cuts caused by Storm Éowyn.

www.rte.ie

Unless the invertor is built into the car ?.

Here's how to backup your electricity before the next storm

Some important points to consider about your electrical backup options, including generators, electric cars and solar panels.

www.rte.ie

Useful factsheet

https://aeva.asn.au/files/3744/

Doesn't currently support V2X but I don't think that means you can't back power the house but you do need a specific charger with invertor - I think.

Bidirectional charging is the one to look out for... quite a few No against that. V2X etc.

CUPRA Tavascan VZ

All details and specs of the CUPRA Tavascan VZ (2024). Compare price, lease, real-world range and consumption of every electric vehicle.

ev-database.org

Hmm I thought it was on the menu thou ?.

This list says VW ID has it

What Is Bidirectional Charging? — EV Connect

Bidirectional charging allows EV batteries to do much more than just power our cars. Here’s how drivers, homeowners and businesses can benefit from this technology.

www.evconnect.com

Never mind the range if it can power the house in a power cut ?. Will be interested to hear anyone who's got that going.

 

[Gbbeesls]

So it's time to say goodbye to my Cupra Formentor VZ2. Had it for 3 years and actually really enjoyed it, despite the slow infotainment and software glitches and, oh yes, a replacement gear selector! Now comes a new experience as I have decided to go all electric with a Cupra Tavascan V2 (Tavascan Blue). Hopefully I will have this on Friday and then I will be happy to report my findings. Only issue is that my home charging point will not be installed until 2nd April so will have to use local fast chargers for 10 days or so. Now doing a lot less miles than I used to, so I think electric will suit my needs. I will let you know

 

[Napmasterflash]

So it's time to say goodbye to my Cupra Formentor VZ2. Had it for 3 years and actually really enjoyed it, despite the slow infotainment and software glitches and, oh yes, a replacement gear selector! Now comes a new experience as I have decided to go all electric with a Cupra Tavascan V2 (Tavascan Blue). Hopefully I will have this on Friday and then I will be happy to report my findings. Only issue is that my home charging point will not be installed until 2nd April so will have to use local fast chargers for 10 days or so. Now doing a lot less miles than I used to, so I think electric will suit my needs. I will let you know

Hi - I also came from a VZ2 Formentor and got my VZ1 Tavascan a couple of weeks ago. I have to say I am loving it but just trying to get my head round all the tech and living with an EV which is all new to me

 

[TheUkWizard]

Had my car a week today, and only charged it once (at extortionate prices, as still waiting for home charge point installation). and i am too quite concerned about the range. but its still early. I lost 40% charge to do around 60 miles...... Currently on 34% charge, and its predicting 78miles..... so even that would equate to around 220 miles on a 100% charge usage (which you cannot go that low anyway). which would be 100 miles less than the so called official range of 320 (VZ1) ...

Am really worried about the decision now...

 

[andy2max]

Had my car a week today, and only charged it once (at extortionate prices, as still waiting for home charge point installation). and i am too quite concerned about the range. but its still early. I lost 40% charge to do around 60 miles...... Currently on 34% charge, and its predicting 78miles..... so even that would equate to around 220 miles on a 100% charge usage (which you cannot go that low anyway). which would be 100 miles less than the so called official range of 320 (VZ1) ...

Am really worried about the decision now...

What sort of driving were the 60 miles, did you have the heating on much etc during the driving? I have a Born and noticed now we are in winter the range is a good chunk lower. When you get your home charger installed and can use that for most of your driving hopefully you won’t find any issue.

My car is a lower range and I do about 1000 miles a month, but as I say much more convenient with a home charger

 

[Gbbeesls]

Had my car a week today, and only charged it once (at extortionate prices, as still waiting for home charge point installation). and i am too quite concerned about the range. but its still early. I lost 40% charge to do around 60 miles...... Currently on 34% charge, and its predicting 78miles..... so even that would equate to around 220 miles on a 100% charge usage (which you cannot go that low anyway). which would be 100 miles less than the so called official range of 320 (VZ1) ...

Am really worried about the decision now...

I have had my Tavascan V2 for about 8/9 months. In the summer I was getting approx 310 miles from the car but as the weather has got colder I have seen this range drop to around 280. When driving in town I always use the regen braking (mode B) and this seems to help a lot. I also turn off AirCom when its not really required. I do quite a bit of motorway driving and use D mode for this and try to keep my speed to about 60-65 as it seems that 70 uses quite a bit more battery. I have a home charger with the EON Next Drive tariff and this makes the car cheap to run. A full charge would cost me £5.16 for 280 miles which I think is amazing. Normally I get to about 50% then change and the lowest I have been is 20%. So I think once you get used to driving the car which is a bit different to a ICE and you have your home charger you will see the benefits and the much cheaper running costs.

 

[Tell]

I use to keep petrol consumption notes for my first car, Uno ES. That had quite seasonal fuel consumption. Reckon without looking at my SuperCalc spreadsheet that I wouldn't able to read now it had a similar type of pattern. Engine oil viscosity in the cold... don't think it's too much to worry about. May be ICE engine oil is more viscous these days. The heater obviously you run on electric, fans, windscreen but sticky oil in the engine has a bearing for ICE not for electric. Regenerative braking generating stored energy. Swihgs and round abouts. Probably someone has a bit of science on this nowadays but you always did less mpg in the winter to the summer. I'm liking the post above. I'll copy it when I get an EV.