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BBZ engine
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Yeah, well its a engine co-designed by the french company's, pug 207, mini, citreon DS3 all use the same engine, theres a few more aswell i think.
Looking at the ammount of little french cars at the hardshoulder than compared to VAG cars, i'm pretty confident what engine i will walk home with at the end of the day!
Not at all, and I have personnally pushed the engine in 2nd gear to almost reach 60, although this was just a one of and I wouldnt recommed it.
Usually i get up to 70mph on the motorway in 3rd gear! Although it will reach a bit higher, I don't think this is causing the engine too much harm (yet..). Dare i say that i even got the car to 100mph without even touching 5th gear lol!
Thats what I love about these 100bhp engines, they just give soo much push after 4k, even a TDI PD100 can't get away from it!
Not at all, and I have personnally pushed the engine in 2nd gear to almost reach 60, although this was just a one of and I wouldnt recommed it.
Usually i get up to 70mph on the motorway in 3rd gear! Although it will reach a bit higher, I don't think this is causing the engine too much harm (yet..). Dare i say that i even got the car to 100mph without even touching 5th gear lol!
Thats what I love about these 100bhp engines, they just give soo much push after 4k, even a TDI PD100 can't get away from it!
What makes you think that? The TDI has power down in the low range because of its small turbo, but they are limited to only 5k.
Both engines have the same 0-60 times and the same top speed give or take, so I don't belive a pd100 would obiterate the BBZ engine.
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drive a leon at work which has 105bhp and it is much quicker than my car. I had an Astra 1.7cdti 100bhp before this and it was faster than this car without doubt.
As for the 0-60 times, i am sure the 1.4 is 11.2 and the 1.9 is 10.8
No the 1.4 is 10.8, but even if it was 11.2, the TDI still wouldn't pull away much.
The 105ps? Never heard of the 105ps TDI engine (unless you mean the 1.6 16v)? The 1.6 16v is about 5bhp quicker, but because the Leon is heavier, you will not notice any performance.
As for the Astra 1.7 diesel, they are only 75bhp, which is definatly not as quick as the 1.9 or 1.4 100.
It's all about revving the 16v engine to get the best performance out of it, unlike the TDI. Of course if it feels slower to you, then perhaps you are not revving it hard enough lol..
The 105ps? Never heard of the 105ps TDI engine (unless you mean the 1.6 16v)? The 1.6 16v is about 5bhp quicker, but because the Leon is heavier, you will not notice any performance.
As for the Astra 1.7 diesel, they are only 75bhp, which is definatly not as quick as the 1.9 or 1.4 100.
It's all about revving the 16v engine to get the best performance out of it, unlike the TDI. Of course if it feels slower to you, then perhaps you are not revving it hard enough lol..
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autotrader says the 1.4 takes 11.2 to 60 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201046373524285/sort/priceasc/usedcars/engine-size-cars/1-4l_to_1-6l/body-type/hatchback/fuel-type/petrol/maximum-age/up_to_3_years_old/quantity-of-doors/3/transmission/manual/make/seat/radius/1500/page/1/keywords/100/postcode/ka112bz?logcode=p
there is a 105 bhp tdi engine used in the leon http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201047373704964/sort/priceasc/usedcars/body-type/hatchback/engine-size-cars/1-7l_to_1-9l/fuel-type/diesel/maximum-age/up_to_3_years_old/transmission/manual/model/leon/make/seat/page/1/postcode/ka112bz/radius/1500?logcode=p
the 1.7 astra comes in either 70 bhp or 100bhp this is the 100 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...radius/1500/page/1/postcode/ka112bz?logcode=p
tbh i think for the size of engine, it is fairly quick for what it is. I know this is going to sound stupid but i am a bit embarassed to rev my car if there are people about cos it looks as if you are a 'boy racer'. I usually rev up to about 3.5k to get onto the motorway, that is'nt enough is it lol?
You haven't? Well there's a lot of 'em around, fitted into Mk5 Golfs, A3 Mk2s, Leon Mk2s, Octavia Mk2s... I'll stop.
The beauty of a TDI is that it can pick up speed using next to no revs. That's what torque is about. Torque is so much more useable than brute horsepower.
I'm sure we've all seen the Top Gear episode of the Mini Cooper vs the Skoda Fabia VRS. Both equal on horsepower, Mini had the weight advantage, yet the torquey, diesel Fabia completely caned it.
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The TDI may have the torque, but the petrol has the revs, so they both make up for each other.
The leon 105tdi takes about the same time getting to 60 compared with the BBZ engine, which is probably because the BBZ engine revs higher so can make up for the Leons low down power. Source: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=1416
Also Autotrader is not that good for figures, i tend to get mine from here: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=797. On that list you will find the Ibiza takes the same time to get to 60 compared with your 105 1.9 derv engine.
So i can't understand how the Leon would feel quicker unless you drive the BBZ like a vicor.
The leon 105tdi takes about the same time getting to 60 compared with the BBZ engine, which is probably because the BBZ engine revs higher so can make up for the Leons low down power. Source: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=1416
Also Autotrader is not that good for figures, i tend to get mine from here: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=797. On that list you will find the Ibiza takes the same time to get to 60 compared with your 105 1.9 derv engine.
So i can't understand how the Leon would feel quicker unless you drive the BBZ like a vicor.
must be the torque that makes it feel faster lol! i still prefer diesel, it gets tiring having to rev to get speed all the time
It was a Cooper not a Cooper S from what i remember, the VRS was quicker still tho, cost's less than the mini i think aswell.
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