Bluefin remap on brand new Leon Cupra R

chris128

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Fair enough, but I have seen lots of people say they've had theirs done and it has made it pull from lower revs (admittedly I think most of them were on a 2.0 TDI Audi A3 I had and was thinking of remapping)
 
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I would say the car should pull abit better at any rev but more so in higher revs as the turbo will be spinning. I would say once you hit 3rd gear and floor it then you should have a big grin. Also if you want the turbo to spool sooner i belive you need to look at intake and exhaust mate. Hope this helps but also hopes its true lol

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Marshall

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There was a member on here had his Cupra mapped by Revo and complained about exactly this and he then got a refund from Revo and then got his car done by APR and said that the power came in lower down.
I can't comment as I've not tried the Revo file but the APR file does come alive before 3000 rpm..
I would also say that once you fit a downpipe with sportcat the boost does come in much much sooner.
When I fitted my downpipe driving the car the same as before I found traction a problem as low as 2000 rpm.
Not getting involved in a Revo vs APR debate just giving info.
 

Al

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There was a member on here had his Cupra mapped by Revo and complained about exactly this and he then got a refund from Revo and then got his car done by APR and said that the power came in lower down.

Got a link?

Regardless of any map, software cannot make hardware do something it is not capable of doing (ie creating power from boost built before the point of it spooling).
 

Al

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I don't want or need involved in a debate either kev. Its just pretty early days for the guy if he was running crappy fuel and the timing was set for super unleaded and the "jump" expected wasn't possible as a result of poor fuel.

A car takes a bit of time to adapt to new code anyway. Pretty sure a new car with 1300 miles with new code will go really well with proper fuel and the ECU adapted :)
 

Marshall

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To be fair we don't know how it's setup and what settings are being used.
I've always run my car on super unleaded even in standard tune so can't comment on how it would drive with 95 Ron anyway.
When I got mine it had about 1300 miles on it and I put bluefin on about 2000 miles and removed bluefin by 7000 miles and the standard performance once it had covered 7000 miles was a massive improvement so the car will still improve anyway.
I still think a downpipe gives the feeling of no lag and much quicker spool up.
 

Al

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An uprated downpipe is indeed a nice addition to have. Then again, so is an uprated intake, intercooler and fuel pump :funk: :)

It has to be said though that cars with stage 1 and nothing else have everything a factory car has plus OEM+ (hate that term but it works here) performance, especially with one of the newest maps out now. Going from standstill to 160mph with no noise, no worries with emissions and no screws/bolts/nuts having been touched or turned really does make a difference :)
 

chris128

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Thanks for the additional comments guys. So if my timing has been set for regular unleaded (which it will have been, as the guy asked what I use and I said regular unleaded) will using super unleaded cause any kind of problem? Would it actually make any difference to performance if I got them to change the timing if I'm going to use super unleaded now?
Also I mentioned before that the turbo now "whistles" when pushed hard, and it definitely didn't do that before. Is that normal? Anything to be concerned about? I'm not talking about the normal hissing sound you get as the turbo is building up, the best way I can describe it is kind of like a boiled kettle whistling lol
 
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Marshall

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The whistle doesn't sound normal mine hisses a little when on boisterous but doesn't whistle like a kettle.
As for timing settings in my opinion it's pointless getting your car mapped if your not getting it setup for 98 Ron fuel.

Running on the 98 rob fuel there will be more timing and boost available.
You should get them to set you up for 98 Ron now and keep running it on it.
On my last car when I spoke to revo regarding fuel they didn't recommend running it on 95 Ron.
They said if you needed to run 95 then revert the car to stock.


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I get that whistle on my stock cupra. It is going in for diagnostics at r tech performance on Friday to hopefully find the problem.


Search my threads and its on there don't know if its the same?
 

chris128

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On my last car when I spoke to revo regarding fuel they didn't recommend running it on 95 Ron.
They said if you needed to run 95 then revert the car to stock.

Oh right, didn't realise it made that much of a difference. Guess I'll be going back some time this week to get them to adjust it for super unleaded then. I'll mention the turbio whistle as well then.

Cheers for the advice guys
 

chris128

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OK booked it in to go back today to get it setup for super unleaded so will see how that feels. I'd also just like to say I'm impressed with Revo for getting in touch with me after seeing this thread and wanting to make sure everything gets sorted out and that I'm happy with the result.
 

chris128

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Went back today and they said they can't push the timing any further on yet but suggested I come back in a few days when I've run a couple more tanks of super unleaded through it, as they say the ECU takes time to adjust to it. They've changed the boost setting from 7 to 9 (which is the maximum) though and it did feel a bit more aggressive on the way home :) just hope that's not going to damage anything lol got them to take a listen to the turbo whistle too and they said they've done plenty of other cars with the same engine (e.g Audi S3) and they've all sounded like that so its nothing to worry about. I guess that could just mean they're doing something wrong on all of them lol but would hope not.

Oh and for future reference for anyone else, I also asked if the ECU was indeed "locked" as some people suggested it was on all new Leons - but they said no it definitely wasn't. They said if it had been then they could still do it but just would have had to of actually taken the ECU out of the car to work on it.
 
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Marshall

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For everyday running I wouldn't be running on boost 9.
On my last revo fr I ran boost 7 at stage 1 and boost 8 at stage 2.
Once they set your timing up I would think you may end up on boost 6 or 7


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Al

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Its a different map now though Kev. 9 is acceptable as there is a smoother build up of boost at the bottom end unlike the one you will have had on your car :)
 

chris128

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Yeah they did say the difference between the settings was changed in this last release of the software. I guess I'll see what they say when I go back next week
 

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Can you not get it on a rolling road? This is why before/after is advisable.
 

Marshall

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Oh in that case I'm sure it'll be setup as it should be then.
Didn't know things had changed with the new software.
Let us know how you get in mate.


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