Coding in Bluetooth module.

[darrellr]

I've fitted in a BT module to my Seat Leon (1P) but I cannot seem to control it properly. I can get the unit to pair with my 'phone and it does work as a BT headset. What I can't seem to do is go that bit further and get the unit to do Voice control in English. The coding x2x should set English but the unit steadfastly insists on being German and the following fault codes continually appear in the module diagnostics.

Address 77: Telephone Labels: None
Part No SW: 1Z0 035 729 HW: 1Z0 035 729
Component: FSE_2P7x H24 0020
Coding: 0000422
Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 230
Mileage: 24854 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:29:40

00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 24854 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:32:21

If the CAN bus was disconnected surely it wouldn't work at all. Any ideas how to solve the problem of getting the unit to speak English and stop raising errors?

 

[Uwe@Ross-Tech]

Post up a complete auto-scan please. There may be some clues in other modules.

-Uwe-

 

[darrellr]

Friday,21,March,2008,14:21:41:59303
VAG-COM Version: Release 704.1
Data version: 20071016
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77

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00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.LBL
Part No SW: 1P0 907 115 D HW: 1P0 907 115 D
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0010
Coding: 0303000318070160
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Coding: 0004738
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.LBL
Part No: 1P0 907 044
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 001 0302

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049.LBL
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Coding: 818C0F2F00041000001D00000000000000007F075C
Shop #: WSC 06441

Part No: 1P0 955 119 A
Component: Wischer SE350 012 0403
Coding: 00056272
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3C0-909-605.LBL
Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 H HW: 3C0 909 605 H
Component: R4 AIRBAG VW8 027 2521
Coding: 0021044
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AG HW: 1K0 953 549 AG
Component: J0527 634 0070
Coding: 0003042
Shop #: WSC 06441

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 005 0060

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.LBL
Part No: 1P0 920 925
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0422
Coding: 0002401
Shop #: WSC 28042

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.LBL
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Coding: 3D3F03C8070203
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.LBL
Part No: 1P0 920 925
Component: IMMO VO3 0422

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1T0-919-887.LBL
Part No: 1T0 919 887 C
Component: Navigation 0421
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX2.LBL
Part No: 1T0 959 701 C
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2452
Coding: 0000688
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.LBL
Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D06 1701

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-46.LBL
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 19C000BC090005054C5F863004CC
Shop #: WSC 67018

Part No: 1P0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw.010 4971
Coding: 00000000
Shop #: WSC 00000

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Component: NGS n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX2.LBL
Part No: 1T0 959 702 C
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2452
Coding: 0000688
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1T0-035-095.LBL
Part No: 1T0 035 095
Component: Radio 0421
Coding: 0005402
Shop #: WSC 49182

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door,Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.LBL
Part No: 1K0 959 703 G
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2420
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.LBL
Part No: 1K0 959 704 G
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2420
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 06441

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: None
Part No SW: 1Z0 035 729 HW: 1Z0 035 729
Component: FSE_2P7x H24 0020
Coding: 0000422
Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 230
Mileage: 24854 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:29:40

00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 24854 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:32:21


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[Uwe@Ross-Tech]

After discussing this with Sebastian, we have the following suggestions:

First, download and install Beta 803 which includes a label file for this module. This module only comes in 2008 model-year cars, so "Labels: None" on version 704 is not a surprise.

Next, try is recoding the Telephone module with a non-zero WSC. Put something like 00001 or 12345 in the WSC. There are a few modules which aren't happy with zero in there and this may be one of them.

Let us know if that cures it. If not, poke around in the measuring blocks starting at 125 in your CAN Gateway and check if there are any problems with it talking to other modules.

-Uwe-

PS: FWIW, The voice recognition capabilities of this module are said to be somewhat less than optimal.

 

[darrellr]

After discussing this with Sebastian, we have the following suggestions:

First, download and install Beta 803 which includes a label file for this module. This module only comes in 2008 model-year cars, so "Labels: None" on version 704 is not a surprise.


PS: FWIW, The voice recognition capabilities of this module are said to be somewhat less than optimal.

Thanks for that. I asked for one last favour and drove round. We installed the new version, checked the labels which now show up, added WSC (06441) and IMP (785), coded 422 and cleared codes.

Unfortunately, the nice lady stills speaks to me in German

We did look at group 125 on the measuring block but didn't really know what to do and I think I've had all my favours now so I said thanks and came home.

Thanks for trying Uwe, especially since I'm not a customer.

 

[Theresias]

Did you retrofit the whole thing?
Created your own wiring or bought it as retrofitting package?
To which CAN-data bus did you connect it?
MVB 125 and up contain the data bus communication status for each module. Telephone should be in MVB 141.1 What value does the field show?
You may also want to correct your nav/radio coding to ensure that it communicates with the telephone.

 

[darrellr]

Did you retrofit the whole thing?
Created your own wiring or bought it as retrofitting package?.

Retrofit package using standard VAG parts and loom.

To which CAN-data bus did you connect it?

Don't know? I spliced it to the CAN-BUS cabling behind the Sat-Nav.

MVB 125 and up contain the data bus communication status for each module. Telephone should be in MVB 141.1 What value does the field show?

Ahh we didn't get that high. If I get access to VAG-COM again I'll have a look.

You may also want to correct your nav/radio coding to ensure that it communicates with the telephone.

I recoded Radio (0005402) and Sat-Nav (0000004).

 

[Theresias]

The radio coding seems to be incorrect...

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/VW_Radio_System_(RNS-MFD2_CD)

...IMHO it should be 0007402. Looking forward for your MVB 141.1 test.

 

[darrellr]

The radio coding seems to be incorrect...

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/VW_Radio_System_(RNS-MFD2_CD)

...IMHO it should be 0007402.

Could not set 6402 or 7402. Every time we tried we could hit done but the value stayed the same as it was previously. I sort of assumed this was another symptom of something being wrong.

00x?xxx: Configuration II
+1 = IF-Output
+2 = Telephone Control (CAN)
+4 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel (CAN)
00xx?xx: Speaker Channels
4 = 4 passive Speakers (Front & Rear)
00xxx?x: Sound System Correction
0 = No Sound System (No Correction)
00xxxx?: Configuration III
2 = CD-Changer

Looking forward for your MVB 141.1 test.

I'm traveling to London in April and so hopefully I can find a VAG-COM person to help out then.

 

[darrellr]

Can I get confirmation that the CAN wiring to the BT box must be okay as the gateway can communicate with it (sufficient to get details and error codes), I can change coding values/adaptions and the unit reacts when I press the button on the steering wheel?

 

[darrellr]

Problem solved the easy way!

I swapped an older (5P0) module from my brand new MY08 Altea XL for the 1Z0 one.

The 1Z0 module works perfectly in the MY08 car and the 5P0 module works perfectly in my MY06 Leon.

Presumably all to do with newer Gateway/ECU code in the MY08 vehicle to 'understand' the 1Z0 module?