Cupra st300 standard or lux?

[Jaco2k]

Yeah, it is removing gloves in cold that does it for me - in Summer I don't mind it so much.
We have the Cupra and an Ibiza FR on the household and in Summer, I don't mind the Ibiza, but in winter.... I am kinda thankful for Kessy on the Cupra.

But again, I don't think the issue is as mass spread as the press would make it believe.

 

[Seastormer]

You are over-analysing it,my friend.
I had a Civic type R with keyless and never noticed any great benefit and,coming back to a Cupra with a key,never noticed any great hardship.
...but I don't live in Finland.

I agree, I live in Scotland and some times the weather feels like Finland, but I can stand fully clothed in my house, and then pick up the fob, lock my house and press fob and enter car, As I have had the car for more than 2 days (which is all I need to remember where the key goes, even if it where pitch black) I don't need or want Kessy, even if it came as standard. I believe some new Kessy equiped cars now have a fob that you can turn off the feature, need I say more.

 

[Deleted member 103408]

Have no feelings either way but the current Kessy process is flawed (from a security perspective)

I posted a link recently https://forums.seatcupra.net/index.php?threads/how-easy-is-your-car-to-steal.449027/#post-4828490

The key bits (from security perspective)are

Jaguar Landrover are not susceptible to problem as they use ultra-wide-band (UWB) technology that can very accurately determine the distance between the key and the car, so the car can’t be tricked by the relay attack. - but every new security solution brings out a way round it. You only have to look at the Gaming industry trying to stop people copying and sharing new games.

BMW and Mercedes have added a motion sensor (on there latest cars) into the fob so these keys won’t produce any signals when the key isn’t moving, so thieves shouldn’t be able to hack the signal when the key is safely stored at home. - Not sure what happens when you pull into motorway service station though.

Update Peugeot are now allowing you to have kessy turned off

The other interesting fact is where cars are stolen, majority are in Big Cities / affluent areas.

 

[Maypack]

Fairly safe in Cumbria then. Even though we are a high Cupra number area.

 

[CupraGeezer]

You seriously are defending that a traditional key is just as practical?
Obviously, you have never lived with a car with Kessy.

As ever, this is a question of risk vs reward. Each of us is free to decide whether the reward of not having to take of your gloves is worth the risk of your car not being there when you return to it. I would never criticise anyone else's choice but for me it is not.

So far as the risk being overstated is concerned, statistics are a little hard to come by but, in the UK:-

1) Car theft has increased from 56,000 in 2012 to 80,000 in 2017 (+58% in five years)
2) The percentage of entries through an unlocked door has increased from 13% in 2006 to close to 50% in 2017.

Rightly or wrongly, keyless entry is seen as the cause of those increases. I'm open to other explanations but I can't immediately see one (I don't believe that many more people are just leaving their cars unlocked.

 

[Oldbutswift]

Slightly off topic,but regardless of the pros and cons of keyless,in the middle of winter I would much rather have a heated steering wheel,they are available on Skodas so the tech is instantly available if wanted,but it seems the folks in sunny Spain don't want it!

 

[Gherkin]

With the lux do you still get the alcantara door cards or are they leather?