Diamondbrite jewel ultra question

[Hudson]

Well as some of you beeza readers may know I got my car saturday and it came with the affore mentioned diamondbrite protection in side and out. Now the gfuys at the dealer said i should use diamondbrite shampoo to keep the protection in place as some other cleaners are a bit harsh and remove it.

Is this tosh? If it isnt should i buy diamond brite shampoo or can i get away with a different one? If i can use a different one what would you folks recommend.

H

 

[Reg]

If you (or someone) has been mugged for the extra cost of Diamondbrite, use the stuff they give you to make it last as long as possible. The shampoo helps to act as a conserver.

Otherwise, just use a decent shampoo like Megs Gold Class or Chemical Guys Citrus Wash & Gloss, and then regularly treat with a decent sealant and or/wax.

 

[Daffy]

Load of rollocks. Although I wouldn't have got the Diamondbrite in the first place. Please tell me you didn't pay the dealer for this service as I don't imagine they prepped the bodywork properly. IMO the whole diamndbrite thing is a nice earner for the dealer and thats about it.
If it is supposed to be as hard wearing as they make out then it should stand up to most things. Some megs Gold Class or Shampoo Plus will be absolutely fine.

 

[jonjay]

rofl @ rollocks

Using something like Megs Gold Class which doesnt strip off protection like a lot of other shampoo's should be ok. Same as what Reg said tbh....

 

[Hudson]

Spot on. I got a "starter pack" with the car which was full tank of diesel, matts, first service free and the diamond brite stuff for 150 nicker so dont feel too fleeced.

I currently use auto glym polish on the missus golf which has always given good results, was looking at Menzerna One Step Acrylic Jacket would this do as good of a job (how tough is it to apply).

Any further suggestions as to a decent polish.

Anyone know good detailers in the newcastle area just for future reference as the missus car will need doing soon.

H

 

[Reg]

£150 for all that lot was worth while, just tell yourself Diamondshite was free.

The product itself - a sealant - is not fundamentally bad. But as Daffy says, prep is the key to it bonding/lasting properly, and its simply never done right. Talking to a detailing friend, he was selling another similar product as a service. Buying the kit for £50 (one kit is one treatmeant), charging £250. Nice little earner, but you're better off buying a bottle of Chemical Guys Jetseal 109 for £19.99, applying 2 coats to start with then re-apply every other month (if you want to).

 

[Daffy]

^Some good advice there Reg.

 

[Hudson]

dumb question where can i buy Chemical Guys Jetseal...

H

 

[boss1986]

i agree with about them preping the car.

iv been inside landrovers warehouse millions of times and watched the monkeys puting supaguard on, 90% of the time they dont even wash the cars 1st and they have been in the compound for ages and if they do wash them they use a presure washer and a brush, no shampoo!!

they spread the stuff over the car with a cheap looking sponge and then wipe it off sealing all the dirt in and adding swirls.

iv been behind the scenes there loads of times and i dont like the way they clean the cars, hard brushs to scrub the plastics inside.

sometimes they dont even use the stuff, sometimes they do half a job and then move onto something else.

there little chavy pricks who dont have the right attitude at all.
there contracted out from some national valeting company.


maybe other garages are different but certianly not worth the money they charge, especialy if they dont even do it!!

 

[Daffy]

dumb question where can i buy Chemical Guys Jetseal...

H

www.cleanandshiny.co.uk

 

[Reg]

Hudson, check this out:

http://www.cleanandshiny.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=10183

 

[Hudson]

Whats the risk if i arse this up at all... How would i remove the sealant? Its fairly perminant.

H

 

[Reg]

Its no more permanent than anything else, don't believe the crap they tell you.

If I were you, follow Daffy's suggestion of a wash with fairy liquid (just this once), considering claying it with a mild clay like Sonus Green (worth it even on brand new cars when you see where they are left sitting before getting to you), then you can apply the Jetseal, you shouldn't need to polish beforehand. To work best, it needs two layers. Apply the first very thinly over the whole car. Leave it to cure for 20 minutes, then buff off. You can do this in bright sunshine, doesn't matter how hot the car is (if you don't have shade that is!). Once buffed, leave it for 15/20 minutes, then repeat the process. If you wanted to top up with a wax after then thats great, but you don't have to. If you don't, consider applying another layer of Jetseal in 4-5 weeks time and thats you sorted. Re-apply in 6 months.

 

[Hudson]

What if i wanted to apply just apolish on top? After a good wash with say megs shampoo rinse and dry.

I was looking at Chemical Guys polish (the gloss selant in one jobby).

Anyt houghts?

As for claying whats that actually entail (very new to this proper washing stuff).

H

 

[Daffy]

Hudson get yorself on www.detailingworld.co.uk have a search and all your questions will be answere, hopefully.
Claying is lightly passing a bar of stick clay over the paintwork with a lubricant to remove bonded contaminents from the paint work. If it has never been done then give it a go, sounds weird but you will be amzed at the crap it pulls off.

 

[Hudson]

Right I have a plan after reading bits and bobs.

Going to give the car a good wash with the diamondbrite shampoo (as it was free - well sort of). Clay the car (is there any limit to how to clay - ie do i apply pressure or acts as if i'm just wiping the car down). Once clayed gonna use Chemical Guys Extreme All-In-1 Polish + Shine & Sealant gonna give it two coats.

I have noted some swirl marks inmy paint work though (very disapointed) but I dont have a PC to get them out; is doing it by hand as much hard work as it sounds - or should I go back to the deal and say wtf is these swirl marks about give me money for proper detailer.??

H

EDIT

Whilst i think about what do I use with the clay (i assume you cannot go in dry)?

 

[Reg]

Ok, you won't get swirls out by hand, so if you want rid of them, you need a proper detailer.

As soon as you go near your paint with clay & polish, yo uwill remove anything and everything from the surface - so there goes the diamondbrite anyway. CG All In One is very good to use by hand, gives a lovely finish.

Clay needs a lubricant so that it glides over the paint surface. Try it dry and you'll end up in a right old nasty mess. If you get a kit from Halfords they do one with a bottle of quick detailer. However, a better idea is to get yourself a gallon of Meguiars Last Touch which is another quick detailer, and you can use it for all sorts of things, including a clay lube. It will be much better value for money too.

 

[Hudson]

so once I have completed these tasks will I need a sealant/wax or will the Chem Bros stuff do the trick?

 

[Reg]

It would be better to apply something like the Jetseal sealant and/or a wax after polishing to give some protection. I'd say just the Jetseal will do you proud.