Disapointing Milage on the Pirelli's

[carlt69]

Hello everyone

I know this has been covered somewhere else, but I had to post just to get it out of my system
My factory fitted Pirelli's have only done 6500 miles 99% on A and B roads and they are down to 2mm at the front!!! I don't drive it particualy hard all the time, just now and again

Whats everyone else had on them?

Phew thats better

 

[warren_cox]

Pirelli's on FWD cars bite arse.Get some Goodyear Asymmetrics.

 

[sydoggkdy]

yeh i had pirelli p6000's on my ibiza n gt 11000 miles n i thought tht was bad wht do u thnk u should get, some people say like 20000 miles ?

 

[warren_cox]

i drove my LCR fairly gently and stretched 12000 miles from the front P-Zero's and 17,000 from the rears. They were utter cack.

 

[JonoUK]

Pirelli's on FWD cars bite arse.Get some Goodyear Asymmetrics.

Any idea how they wear with "a bit" of "fun"driving, but mostly well-behaved model motorist driving?

I got michelin pilot exaltos on mine, 17000 miles later they're STILL well over legal... and I wasn't expecting more than 10k on them. They've not exacly had it easy all their life... They'll need changing soonish within the next few months I think as they're starting to lose a bit of performance I think...

I was looking at the GY F1 asymmetrics, but I don't want them to last only 8000 miles, really.

Will probably get all 4 wheels done at the same time.

Oh, plus the fact that exaltos when I can find them online seem to cost about £50 more than the GY's

 

[warren_cox]

Don't think the GY's will outlast the Michelins, but recent tyre reviews has the GY's pipping the Michelins overall in performance. Don't think the new Asymmetrics have been about long enough to know what mileage they give.

 

[coggie]

I've got a set of p7's, swapped the front to the back when they got to 3mm (11k),

I'm on 18k now, 5mm on the front and still 3mm on the back. Will get 20k easily.

 

[Stupra]

I have P7 on my Altea with 20k on it. Fronts have about 4mm left, rears about 6-7mm. Long lasting!!
P zero's are known to be poor in life expectancy.

I had some F1 Goodyears on an old Laguna, they lasted very well..

Lesson here, rag the P zero's & get something with a substantial Rim bar protector!!

PS TOYO make a good tyre, similar to the Goodyear. Forgot its name, they also offer good warranties on their tyres.

 

[Syphon]

Just hit 10,000 miles and mine need replacing.

Scott

 

[Michael B]

The P-zeros i had on min were rubbish, and the no rim protector was a pain.

I got 17,000miles out of the Pzeros (swapping front to back etc)

I put the eagle f1s on (symetrica) and whilst good dry gripping, found them a poor wet tyre. The FR TDI has totally eaten them as well.. Im approaching 30k and needing all 4corners replaced in the next few k.

I may go for the asymetrica next..

Or some michelins

 

[cuprascott]

Pirelli's on FWD cars bite arse.Get some Goodyear Asymmetrics.

^ what he said!

I had Pzeros on my ibiza cupra from the factory and they only lasted about 6k - i was a bit younger then tho! nuff said!

Ive done just over 5k on mine on the FR and they have got about 4mm left on them. TBH they would not be my first choice for a tyre anyway the goodyears get my vote every time. Lack of rim protector on the Pirellis have resulted in a wife meets kerb incident.

 

[Carr20vt]

Was going to post the same question very soon as I've just covered 4k mls and got 3-4mm left on the front pzero's its been Revo'd since 1k. Going to get them swapped to the rear as i've picked up a slow puncture so do it at the same time.

 

[Rampage]

Just hit 10,000 miles and mine need replacing.

Scott

What tyres?

 

[Syphon]

What tyres?

Std Cupra PZero Rossos

Scott

 

[carlt69]

oh well, looks like the pirelli's are just Cack I think I will just replace the fronts with some Goodyears F1 Assymetrics and hope they last longer this time.............................................a lot longer!!

 

[carlt69]

yeh i had pirelli p6000's on my ibiza n gt 11000 miles n i thought tht was bad wht do u thnk u should get, some people say like 20000 miles ?

Anything around the 10k would be good enough for me!! 6500 is just shocking!!

 

[phil3012]

I think it's a bit harsh for us to slate Pirelli's just because of the mileage people are getting.

Has anyone looked at the wear rate indicator on the side of the tyre to compare with brands that last longer?

It's often a trade off between grip and wear rate.

The softer the compund the better the grip but the quicker the wear rate.

When the Ford Focus first came out I complained at only getting 12K out of the fronts (on a 1.8 Zetec). The response from a few people was "That's good going, many people have to change at 8K). The set of Avons I got as replacements lasted 18K though.

If you buy a performance car like an FR or Cupra, unforunately you can't expect the tyres to last forever.

 

[phil3012]

The Pirelli has a wear rate of 220.

From E-Tyres:

Treadwear grades are an indication of a tyre's relative wear rate. The higher the treadwear number is, the longer it should take for the tread to wear down.

A control tyre is assigned a grade of 100. Other tyres are compared to the control tyre. For example, a tyre grade of 200 should wear twice as long as the control tyre.

Of current tyres:

15% are rated below 200

25% are rated 201 - 300

32% are rated 301 - 400

20% are rated 401 - 500

6% are rated 501 - 600

2% are rated above 600

So the P-Zeros have quite a high wear rate in comparison to the rest of the tyres on the market.

Just checked my Cupra with 8K on the clock and I'm suprised how much tread is left on them. This is mainly motorway miles though. I would think I could get another 4/5K out of them.

 

[FReddytdi]

my p-zero's on the front lasted 20,000 miles, the back ones are still going strong at 23,000.

 

[warren_cox]

I think it's a bit harsh for us to slate Pirelli's just because of the mileage people are getting.

Has anyone looked at the wear rate indicator on the side of the tyre to compare with brands that last longer?

It's often a trade off between grip and wear rate.

The softer the compund the better the grip but the quicker the wear rate.

When the Ford Focus first came out I complained at only getting 12K out of the fronts (on a 1.8 Zetec). The response from a few people was "That's good going, many people have to change at 8K). The set of Avons I got as replacements lasted 18K though.

If you buy a performance car like an FR or Cupra, unforunately you can't expect the tyres to last forever.

I don't think its harsh to slate them for FWD's, supposedly they work well on RWD cars. I expected them:

a) to have some grip in the corners
b) not to aquaplane horribly in the wet
c) to wear evenly across the face of the tyre. The centres wore out on mine very quickly and they were inflated at 33psi, so not over inflated

People sometimes use the p-zero on the back of a car if they like the rear end a bit lively, try them against the current sector leaders and they are honestly second rate tyres. The performed quite badly in the recent Autocar tyre test on FWD's.