electric window issues seat altea 2006

Rich07

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Actually bit of a recal, I believe the motor was attached to the back of the door card? Yes, but take pics here to recall the path of the cables coming from the runners to motor, it will help when re-fitting as you need to ensure they are not causing obstruction. Good luck.
 
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Rich07

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Oh another tip, when re fitting door card do so reverse- top to bottom, the card clips in tight to window at the top. Also in my door I had a small led light to indicate Alarm make sure it's in before putting card back as you won't want to remove again.
 
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SeatJay

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Thanks Rich, I really appreciate the time you've taken there and will up date you once I've had a go at it! I'm not a big fan of jobs like this but do enjoy it when I get a result!
 

Rich07

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No probs. I'm no mechanic, but over the years doing DIY I've built up more competence in various repairs, when I started my windows were tied up with cable ties, and I thought to myself pay the garage £400! Do it myself or leave them as they are. Well I wasn't prepared to pay £400, and if I didn't succeed in the repair then I could just tie them back up and I've only lost £20 on parts, I only purchased one repair kit to begin with. Hope it goes well.
 

SeatJay

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Quick update!

Had a go at the 20 quid fix today and can say the okzam kit I bought is officially about 1cm or 1 1/2 cm too small. I've tried for hours to get it in and no joy. I can fully understand how it works and order to do it but there is no chance.

I've taken some pics which I will post to show the inner workings and it isnt too bad a job. My advice would be buy the regulator pack from Euro Car parts or similar and save your self the nightmare of fiddling. It was 67 quid for the part and it will hopefully be here on tuesday. Car is now sat outside with the window taped up and covered in plastic.
 

Rich07

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It defo shouldn't be too small, you have to load the wheel in at an angle, it is really really tough to pull the wheel in, must make sure all cable are in right place and in there recesses push the springs completely in on wheel housing and load the wheel in at an angle, it won't go in square, never in a month of Sundays. You have to get at an angle the bottom edge of wheel in housing and use leverage to pull wheel in. It is really hard to load but should go in. All I can say is if not loaded correctly it will seem 1cm-2cm too short, it requires high tension.
 

SeatJay

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I've tried everything including using a screw driver to leverage it in from the centre of the hole. Its a long way off even with two pairs of hands. The only time I got it in was when the cable came off one of the jockey wheels at the top. I'm quite a practical person and sped through the door card etc. Gutted not to get it done as car is undrivable whilst taped up and I'm worried about it being unsecured...
 

Rich07

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The cable will load, but the euro car part one comes already loaded I believe? That's why I suggested it when you asked what would make the job easier. But they are £70 per door, when I loaded the £20 kit it looks miles too short, just angle the wheel, may even need to use a flat screwdriver to get more leverage, it may help having a mate help load the wheel too. Put it this way when I did mine I did work up a sweat lol.
 

Rich07

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When I did mine I too thought it would never go in. Don't lever it in with centre of hole waste of time. while pulling tilt the wheel angled, mine took a lot of brute force, but I think that's why they sell them already loaded. But I suppose DIY jobs throw things like this up, just part of it I'm afraid :(
 

SeatJay

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Yeah frustrating, getting the door card off is the bigger job I thought I was gonna be done in 45 mins. I tried everything with the wheel only conclusion is my kit was defective. Other ebayers have said the same.



Should of taken your advice on the full kit but had already bought it! Still hopefully all will be mended on Tuesday when the kit comes.
 

Rich07

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Yeah that's why I said its one of those jobs to allow yourself a free day, i don't know how many times I've thought to myself 30 min job, then spent all day on it lol. I can't comment on your kit, but all I can say is mine too looked way too short, in fact I do remember thinking that's never gunna go in, but it did, it is only just possible to get that wheel in. It does seem impossible bit of a knack to it.
 

Rich07

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But just to reiterate if you try pulling the wheel square on to housing it will never go in. Pull the wheel until it is 1-2cm from housing and tilt the wheel toward springs so bottom edge goes toward the housing, push the bottom edge into housing which allows the extra leverage and just push wheel in. If not then maybe there is some small variation in runners from model to model? ?
 

SeatJay

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But just to reiterate if you try pulling the wheel square on to housing it will never go in. Pull the wheel until it is 1-2cm from housing and tilt the wheel toward springs so bottom edge goes toward the housing, push the bottom edge into housing which allows the extra leverage and just push wheel in. If not then maybe there is some small variation in runners from model to model? ?

Its just one of those things, I guess there is little quality control and with such tight tollerances a little bit can throw things off a long way... hopefully the EuroCarparts kits will sort it out...
 

Rich07

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if you can get the wheel to within 1cm -1 1/2 cm without tilting the wheel then it will go in with the tilt in method. When it pops in the cables slacken.but yes at the beginning of this thread I mentioned that buying ready loaded would avoid the fuss. Gutted, really gets on ya tits when it doesn't go to plan. but hopefully yea the ready loaded ones go in ok, pain about window being sheeted! I'm bloody lucky where I am you could leave your boot open and nobody would bother.
 
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SeatJay

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Trust me I tried everything to force the bugger in there! With the Altea's lack of lock nobs you could leave it open here and no one really knows! I'm hoping I can get away with it for a couple of days. Having had the door apart I think I could get it all done pretty quick next time.

All good practice for when the passenger door inevitably goes. Next time I'll be straight in on the framed repair just for the stress levels!
 

Rich07

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Yeah my first door was a tad stressful lol,mainly because of how fiddly it was to load that bloody wheel! Sadly yes the other side will more than likely go also, seems to be a weak design. I think greasing the mech really well will help prolong the life and help keep smooth operation.
 

SeatJay

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Hi Rich, the regulator kit from Euro car parts turned up today and I now have a full functional window! Thank you for all your help in this thread and to everyone else posting on the forum that allowed me to correctly diagnose and fix my problem.

Having had the door card off twice now and back together twice I would feel really confident doing the passenger side when it becomes an issue (inevitably).

If you get lucky with the £10-£20 ebay fix kits I can see how they can work and it could be a cheap and easy fix. If you want to get the job done quickly and stress free buy a regulator kit from Euro Car parts. Having done the job I would say anyone can do this and I would recommend taking it on away from the dealers if you can work a screw driver!

Thanks again guys, alternator clutch pulley next!
 

Rich07

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Great! Nice one. Yeah much less hassle with the ready done kit. I would agree with Jay that anyone attempting the job will find it much easier buying the ready done kit / less hassle. All I can say about the okzam eBay kit is - I've purchased three of these now off eBay and all three have worked ok? two on my car (bought at different intervals) and one for a mates car? My decision at the time was dictated by ££ as I was skint- anyone considering the job- eurocarparts £70 per door, in my case that would have been £140, bearing in mind you can now get repair kits for around £5/£10 per door. But as Jay experienced if it goes tits up your left with an exposed door. I personally wouldn't hesitate purchasing the kit again, but as Jay said there may be quality control issues on such kits, but starting at a fiver one can't grumble.
 
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