ibiza cupra tdi! better brakes as well so you can use the power safety.
fabia 175-180 1300kg
leon FR 190-200 1300kg+
ibiza cupra 200-210 1200kg
leons more poractical and still fast
fabia cheap and fast
fabia 175-180 1300kg
leon FR 190-200 1300kg+
ibiza cupra 200-210 1200kg
leons more poractical and still fast
fabia cheap and fast
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Not at all biased by any chance ?? 
is that leon 1 or 2
leon 2 FR TDI wins hands down for me. it's 2.0 TDi starting at 170, got more room, but costs £17k witout any mods
Leon 1 150 TDi is 10bhp less than beeza, and heavier, but still bloody quick. (a friend has a chipped one, and it matches acceleration with a stock LCR)
Beeza Cupra for me seems to be stupid on insurance. LCR comes out cheaper
Furby's are great little cars, only come in 5 door, which is a good or bad thing dependant on requirements. starting point is 130bhp, same as Beeza FR (which is what we're going for next)
is that leon 1 or 2
leon 2 FR TDI wins hands down for me. it's 2.0 TDi starting at 170, got more room, but costs £17k witout any mods
Leon 1 150 TDi is 10bhp less than beeza, and heavier, but still bloody quick. (a friend has a chipped one, and it matches acceleration with a stock LCR)
Beeza Cupra for me seems to be stupid on insurance. LCR comes out cheaper
Furby's are great little cars, only come in 5 door, which is a good or bad thing dependant on requirements. starting point is 130bhp, same as Beeza FR (which is what we're going for next)
for me, 34 yrs old
clean licence
17 yrs NCB
LCR = £520
LC = £430
LC tdi = £340
Beeza FR tdi £275
beeza Cupra TDi £650
the 1.8T was cheaper, but still more than the Leons
clean licence
17 yrs NCB
LCR = £520
LC = £430
LC tdi = £340
Beeza FR tdi £275
beeza Cupra TDi £650
the 1.8T was cheaper, but still more than the Leons
Garpusmentus
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where tdi section???
anyway, get a Leon tdi, mines REVOed and its fanbloodytastic, I had a Type-R before and this has soooo much more torque, overtaking and evything else is just so much easier !!
anyway, get a Leon tdi, mines REVOed and its fanbloodytastic, I had a Type-R before and this has soooo much more torque, overtaking and evything else is just so much easier !!
LEONFRTDI2K6
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The Leon 2 TDI FR is the bomb the basic version is well euipped and well worth the price tag when you consider the alternatives.....
Golf GTI TDI 170 - £19,595 which comes with semi climate control, single CD player, auto lights, GT exclusive styling....
Leon 2 FR TDI 170 - £17,495 which has dual climate control, MP3 CD player with ipod/psp connector, cruise control, folding mirrors, exclusive FR styling and it looks so much better..
Golf GTI TDI 170 - £19,595 which comes with semi climate control, single CD player, auto lights, GT exclusive styling....
Leon 2 FR TDI 170 - £17,495 which has dual climate control, MP3 CD player with ipod/psp connector, cruise control, folding mirrors, exclusive FR styling and it looks so much better..
redcupratdi said:
You say that, but in a recent Test Drive article the New Polo Gti which has 288mm discs outbreaked a 1.8T Cupra Mk4 with the seat sport 4-pots, strange eh.
oh and ibiza cupra is more like 1250-60kgs. But would be the best one to go for, purely because depreciation is starting to hit the mk1 leons as mk2 takes over. Plus the Fabia don't look as good as the mk4 ibiza. Although insurance wise the fabia would be the to go for.
LEONFRTDI2K6
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130 TDI vs 160 TDI
What I find with the 130 is that it is not sports orientated, it is more tuned for generally nippy town driving, whether as the 160 TDI relies on high end grunt to get the extra horses and torque the other thing I need to point out is that the Fabia VRS is far lighter than the Cupra because yes the Ibiza Cupra does have better brakes and handling mainly due to the bigger discs, harder and heavier dampers/struts and bigger exhaust manifold, as well as extra weight for the bigger turbo and intercooler.....so the 160 has to pull more weight....
What I find with the 130 is that it is not sports orientated, it is more tuned for generally nippy town driving, whether as the 160 TDI relies on high end grunt to get the extra horses and torque the other thing I need to point out is that the Fabia VRS is far lighter than the Cupra because yes the Ibiza Cupra does have better brakes and handling mainly due to the bigger discs, harder and heavier dampers/struts and bigger exhaust manifold, as well as extra weight for the bigger turbo and intercooler.....so the 160 has to pull more weight....
LEONFRTDI2K6
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that may be the case but I have only seen one woman driving a Leon 2 the rest have been men, but the FR should certainly change all that, its a mans machine just like the advert says.....but have to say the women orientated cars I like anyway....
LEONFRTDI2K6
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how do you work that one out??
the tdi 160 cupra engine alone is heavier than the 130, it has a bigger turbo, intercooler inlet manifold the car itself has bigger wheels, brakes, discs, suspension components, exhaust, even some of the interior features are heavier.........
They might be heavier than the 1.8T version because that engine is far lighter than the TDI....
the tdi 160 cupra engine alone is heavier than the 130, it has a bigger turbo, intercooler inlet manifold the car itself has bigger wheels, brakes, discs, suspension components, exhaust, even some of the interior features are heavier.........
They might be heavier than the 1.8T version because that engine is far lighter than the TDI....
According to the link below,
the fabia vrs is 1260kg and the cupra tdi is 1175kg???
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.asp
and seat's site says the cupra tdi is 1177kg and the FR diesel is 1236kg???
the fabia vrs is 1260kg and the cupra tdi is 1175kg???
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.asp
and seat's site says the cupra tdi is 1177kg and the FR diesel is 1236kg???
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no fabia Vrs is v lardy
i'll find out for sure saturday what a cupra wieghs as its going onto a wieghbridge
i'll find out for sure saturday what a cupra wieghs as its going onto a wieghbridge
the fabia is heavier than the ibiza cupra,
the fastest remaped and standard is the ibiza cupra tdi, the best at handling standard is the ibiza cupra, the best at stopping standard is the ibiza cupra.
doenst't mean it is the best car.
for the best all round car it is down to needs, budget and taste.
this is a silly thread! not the only one!
the fastest remaped and standard is the ibiza cupra tdi, the best at handling standard is the ibiza cupra, the best at stopping standard is the ibiza cupra.
doenst't mean it is the best car.
for the best all round car it is down to needs, budget and taste.
this is a silly thread! not the only one!
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