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There's a pressure drop on all IC's full stop
This is minimal on Forge's twin pass setup. but you have to make sacrifices if you don't want to chop much car up
This is minimal on Forge's twin pass setup. but you have to make sacrifices if you don't want to chop much car up
HarveyGTI
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true... but have read on countless posts it is more of a drop on a twin pass setup rather than a single pass
'some' twin pass systems
It's minimal on the forge one (that I've measured)
Lesser designs have a bigger p-loss (and some single pass ones are worse still)
It's minimal on the forge one (that I've measured)
Lesser designs have a bigger p-loss (and some single pass ones are worse still)
HarveyGTI
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ok thanks
As you have measured it, what are the differences in pressure drop between the single pass and twin pass?
just be interesting to know
different cars, different setups - so not a valid comparison to be honest.
Don't be blinkered by the design and look at air flow, cooling performance, p-loss (all of which are more important than whether it's single or twin pass)
Don't be blinkered by the design and look at air flow, cooling performance, p-loss (all of which are more important than whether it's single or twin pass)
where are you looking to end powerwise?
i had the forge fmic which was fine whilst running at stage 1. no noticable difference cept power held better. fitted well and looked the business.
when i went bt the forge became the bottle neck and was swopped to an alloy designs fmic. that went in one and out the other. so yes alloy designs do one. i didnt fit it tho so couldnt say how easy. both coolers i guess rob a little pressure but nothing that i could feel.
i had the forge fmic which was fine whilst running at stage 1. no noticable difference cept power held better. fitted well and looked the business.
when i went bt the forge became the bottle neck and was swopped to an alloy designs fmic. that went in one and out the other. so yes alloy designs do one. i didnt fit it tho so couldnt say how easy. both coolers i guess rob a little pressure but nothing that i could feel.
HarveyGTI
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might have changed to pro alloy!
ring nick at jabbasport and he can give you the model. mk4 golf i think. but ask him mate as it could have been built custom. he can also tell you how easy/hard to fit.
this was rushed though during the bt conversion so i didnt get that involved.
be realistic about the power. 270/280 might be ok with the forge. thats where the bt started to work very hard to push the air through. mind you thats a very different turbo to the k03/4 so this could all be pants!
sorry i really do try not to be useless!
good luck with it
ring nick at jabbasport and he can give you the model. mk4 golf i think. but ask him mate as it could have been built custom. he can also tell you how easy/hard to fit.
this was rushed though during the bt conversion so i didnt get that involved.
be realistic about the power. 270/280 might be ok with the forge. thats where the bt started to work very hard to push the air through. mind you thats a very different turbo to the k03/4 so this could all be pants!
sorry i really do try not to be useless!
good luck with it
ihi vf 22 i think i have. had to run it hard to get 300. 1.6 bar i think. so switched and 1.1 bar is getting me 320. who knows? different turbo?
checked for leaks and forge tested it to 32 psi iirc. no leaks.. ran fine.
saul bought it off me and ive heard nothing so im sure its running well.
be intresting to see what the gt28rs can find.
there must be a limit to the amount of air you can get around a set of pipes.
id rate the forge to about 280 imo. i wonder if bigger pipes would get better flow rates
and ihi dont like high boost anyway. im sure the gt has more to play with.
no figures or anything but the smic seemed a straighter pipe route than the fmic..and i think that was the issue.
anyways the new fmic`s pipes look bigger as well as straighter. perhaps that would also improve the forges performance. maybe bigger is better even tho im assured by the missus it makes no difference
are we talking about your car mork? sounds very nice.
no figures or anything but the smic seemed a straighter pipe route than the fmic..and i think that was the issue.
anyways the new fmic`s pipes look bigger as well as straighter. perhaps that would also improve the forges performance. maybe bigger is better even tho im assured by the missus it makes no difference
are we talking about your car mork? sounds very nice.
Jonah's car... (LC, GTRS etc) so nearly nearly done - but it'll be a nicely finished job, just wish the time was there to complete.
If it's restricted then a single pass one can be sourced and fitted with a manifold swap (otherwise you're can be just in the same boat with long pipeworrk I guess)
If it's restricted then a single pass one can be sourced and fitted with a manifold swap (otherwise you're can be just in the same boat with long pipeworrk I guess)
I've got a manifold. I've sourced the LCR FMIC. I just need some time to work out the other pipes now.
Looking forward to hearing more on Jonah's install.
Looking forward to hearing more on Jonah's install.
more high powerd lcs! excellent.
best of luck with it.
dpj should go bt. yours is the car that actually looks like it goes fast
best of luck with it.
dpj should go bt. yours is the car that actually looks like it goes fast
more high powerd lcs! excellent.
best of luck with it.
dpj should go bt. yours is the car that actually looks like it goes fast
It does though Pat! I'm heading towards a GT28RS eliminator - got the ATP manifold in already. Capable FMIC next. I say heading towards, If I don't get the house sold for the move to France, I won't be able to resist the temptation....
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