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lucifer666

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As said in the tite, whats the gap between the cylinder bores in the block of the 1.4tsi? Dont expect anyone knows?
 
As said in the tite, whats the gap between the cylinder bores in the block of the 1.4tsi? Dont expect anyone knows?

Coolant passages. Car has a dual circuit cooling system.


That is if we're on the same page.
 
On second thoughts are you on about the actual cylinder wall thickness?
 
Hes looking at boring it out to 1.5l with larger pistons ect so maybe hes looking at that. Though you are right there is cooling passages all around the cylinders.

Jay
 
Yeah I am jay. The coolant passage is not a problem its how thick the wall is between each cylinder as too much of a bore will result in having walls too weak to handle the boost
 
Yeah I am jay. The coolant passage is not a problem its how thick the wall is between each cylinder as too much of a bore will result in having walls too weak to handle the boost

Afraid you'll not know until you tear it down and the builder/machine shop gets it.


They'll be best placed to say if it's acceptable...
 
Yeah I am jay. The coolant passage is not a problem ...

To me, the coolant passage looks like a BIG f**kin' problem

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Actually the second picture is not a block it's a cylinder head.

The issue with the block is not the distance between cylinder centres it is the wall thickness between the cylinder bore and the water passages. You won't find that dimension at all easy to find.
 
More cc = more torque? exactly what you don't want with the 7sp DSG? :confused:

APR have overcome the false limit of the box and even with a hybrid and bored to 1.5 I still cant see there being problems with torque. APR's hybrid 1.4tsi with 250-60 real hp(not amd power) the box is fine. Torque can be reduced if needs be by intelligent mapping.
 
Actually the second picture is not a block it's a cylinder head.

The issue with the block is not the distance between cylinder centres it is the wall thickness between the cylinder bore and the water passages. You won't find that dimension at all easy to find.

Yeah true, but I put it in because the gasket was covering the block on the other pic so it wasnt posible to see the gap.

and why is it not the distance between cylinder centres? Surely the coolant under a preassurised system will support thwalls of the cylinder from its internal forces???
 
no this isnt mine, this block is off a polo gti which had done 16k miles. See overfueling cylinder 1 and lean on cylinder 4. It was a engine taken out due to oil consumption.

Dread to think what mines like after 50k
 
Surely the coolant under a preassurised system will support thwalls of the cylinder from its internal forces???

Heavens no. The cooling system runs at perhaps 15 psi (just look at the rubber hoses which can withstand the pressure), while the pressure in the cylinders of a blown engine can be over 200 psi.

The cooling system is only pressurised so that it can run at an elevated temperature without boiling.
 
Heavens no. The cooling system runs at perhaps 15 psi (just look at the rubber hoses which can withstand the pressure), while the pressure in the cylinders of a blown engine can be over 200 psi.

The cooling system is only pressurised so that it can run at an elevated temperature without boiling.

okay, didnt realise it was as much as 200psi, i was thinking of the boost psi entering the engine rather than the boost which is then further preassurised.
This is why i started this thread because my knowladge of engine block theory is limited.

But still i ask the question if the thickness of the wall between cylinders is not the problem and the distance between the cylinder and coolant shaft/hole is the problem, haow is it if the thickness from cylinder to cylinder is less than gap between cylinder and coolant duct?

If its been done before with the exact same pistons, I should be ok surely?
 
After some calculations and image analysis, I believe the cylinder wall to be 5.9mm, post bore and 7.9mm pre???
 
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