Gearbox required.

[paulos44]

HI all..... As my gearbox failed on the M6 yesterday, I'm wondering if anyone has the name(s) of any reliable supplier with a half decent warranty.
My car is a 2004 Toledo20vt and I'm assuming that one off a Leon Cupra 180 is exactly the same.
Cheers.

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[paulos44]

Well, after ringing 3 different Seat Dealers, I'm still without a part number, only a generic number covering all the 6 speed gearboxes.
According the the potential supplier of a second hand gearbox, there were 2 or 3 different ones fitted to my particular car.
Looks like it might be going to the scrappier.

 

[Andrewwright]

O2m box is what you want. Can find it in any golf Octavia Leon and A3. You can put a cupra r box in aswell because it's exactly the same box. You will find many about very cheap. Don't go to a dealer again with a MK1....they looked at me stupid in Peterborough and I highly recommend never going there.

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[paulos44]

O2m box is what you want. Can find it in any golf Octavia Leon and A3. You can put a cupra r box in aswell because it's exactly the same box. You will find many about very cheap. Don't go to a dealer again with a MK1....they looked at me stupid in Peterborough and I highly recommend never going there.

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I was given Part number 02M300046 CX by 3 Seat main dealers yesterday.
The place selling gearboxes......£300 delivered with 3 month warranty....said that's just a generic number which covers all VW 6 speed manual gearboxes, with different gear ratios.

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[Andrewwright]

I was given Part number 02M300046 CX by 3 Seat main dealers yesterday.
The place selling gearboxes......£300 delivered with 3 month warranty....said that's just a generic number which covers all VW 6 speed manual gearboxes, with different gear ratios.

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O2m came with the vr6 and tdi you want the 1.8t o2m box. Seller should know if it was from a vr or TDI but I don't think they do. I tbh wouldn't trust them if they don't know how to sell you the right box. 1.8t boxes are so old now all seller's that do it for a living should know. If not, move on.
Me and my mate went out the other day and picked one up for a gt tdi and works fine...£120 paid but he has a golf so I don't like to talk about it have a look about for a cupra being broken..many about and you could find a good deal, failing that I'll give you scrap price on your Toledo what's that now a days...£100...fix it mate, get involved with the swap and you may really enjoy it.

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[paulos44]

I've been told the actual code on the gearbox needs to start with FML or EFR....

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[Andrewwright]

I've been told the actual code on the gearbox needs to start with FML or EFR....

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You have a 1.8t 20v with a six speed box yes? Look on eBay and find a breaker and get a box that way...better still just give it to a garage to fix.

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[paulos44]

Yep.....and the garage is doing it but I'm supplying the box......garage only supplies recons......£800 !!
Been told the number is on a white sticker under spare wheel.

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[Andrewwright]

Yep.....and the garage is doing it but I'm supplying the box......garage only supplies recons......£800 !!
Been told the number is on a white sticker under spare wheel.

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Get on eBay and have a look for breaking cupra...what area are you in? May have a member around your way that can help with local garages.

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[verbal_kint]

Is that £800 a supply and fit price?

 

[paulos44]

£1000. Supply and Fit !!

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[paulos44]

Sorted anyway....FML box with fitting £500.


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[paulos44]

Do they say that gearbox oil never needs changing ?
110,000 with fully documented S/H.
I've had it since 80,000 and never changed it.......so there's no record of it ever having been changed.

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[Andrewwright]

Out of interest...what went wrong with the box? What is the issue with it.

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[verbal_kint]

Do they say that gearbox oil never needs changing ?

They do say that.

Neither the service manual nor the Haynes (Mk4) state anything about changing it. It is a higher grade oil in a sealed environment and not subject to the ravages that engine oil has to contend with.

Only when you know you've crunched the gears a few times with lazy changes that I might consider changing it.

 

[paulos44]

The box was working perfectly during a 60 mile round trip on M6.
Last mile or so back, I tried to put it in neutral.....just stalled the engine.Will go into 1,2,3,4,6 but just stalls engine when letting clutch out. Only drive is in 5th.
Garage.....whom I trust 100%......said there was an internal fault as the levers under the bonnet ARE moving relative to the gear stick.
I drive it with great mehanical sympathy by the way.

 

[jt20vt]

Gearbox oil can be and ideally be replaced, had mine done a few years back after the car had done 80,000 miles and was 9 years old. SEAT used to say it was for the life time of the car/ gearbox, but these cars last longer than they expect. When mine was done it made the gear change smoother.