HIDs

[harrylawton]

helloo, im new to this, i recently got an 09 ibiza and unfortunately the lights arent great, so i fanccied getting som HIDs.
does anyone know: what bulb you'll need, what wattage and if the ballasts are canbus compatable or not? and what canbus system would i need to fit the HIDs?

any feedback is appreciated

 

[VRSLOZ]

You would need H7 55W CANBUS versions mate but I warn you, they are now illegal (as of 2011) I believe.

 

[t21svj]

they also void your warranty aswell, thats what stoped me from getting some for mine.

im not 100% sure there illegal my mate has my old set on his mondeo and just gone through a M.O.T at ford with them on.

 

[dannychapman10]

They only void the warranty on any part associated with them. Given that the dealers could fight the whole electrical system of your car is affected, it is a risk to take. Fuses are there for a reason
I've had 4 different sets of HIDS throughout my cars and all have been fine. Never been pulled over, although this year, yes the law has changed. MOT testers should NOT pass a car with HIDs due to the fact there are no headlamp washers and self-levellers. Whether the police will stop you is another matter.

 

[Biker]

Have a look at the link below.....

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

 

[phil_monk31]

They are also revising MOT tests now to check for them. Putting them reflective headlamps also causes skatter..... blinds other road users.

 

[streetbeef]

hi mate, just to clear this up a but, you DONT need can bus hid's at all. i have 6k H7R kit for my boc and are designed for reflector headlamps and not to scatter the beam! trust me they are fine, i have had mine since october and have not been flashed once!

 

[gt4meister]

I have been lookin at HID kits for my boca today cus i have got some white led sidelights and want some white headlamp bulbs to match. Has anyone got an idea of any decent h7 bulbs that are brighter (and white) without using hid. Used to have some in a previous car and was very impressed. Preferably ones that wont mess with lamp warning system cus already trying to re-code it to turn it off for the sidelights.
Thanks
Phil

 

[harrylawton]

hi mate, just to clear this up a but, you DONT need can bus hid's at all. i have 6k H7R kit for my boc and are designed for reflector headlamps and not to scatter the beam! trust me they are fine, i have had mine since october and have not been flashed once!

They sound pretty good, are they White? And what's all the kit I need for them and to fit them? Cheers bud

 

[phil_monk31]

hi mate, just to clear this up a but, you DONT need can bus hid's at all. i have 6k H7R kit for my boc and are designed for reflector headlamps and not to scatter the beam! trust me they are fine, i have had mine since october and have not been flashed once!

They all scatter just because you haven't been flashed doesn't mean they don't scatter.. Fact is there illegal, You will fail an MOT and if you get stopped (like there doing in MK) it is £60 and possible points. There have also been recent cases of insurance claims being voided.

If you wanted them.............. you should of had the option

 

[VRSLOZ]

They all scatter just because you haven't been flashed doesn't mean they don't scatter.. Fact is there illegal, You will fail an MOT and if you get stopped (like there doing in MK) it is £60 and possible points. There have also been recent cases of insurance claims being voided.

If you wanted them.............. you should of had the option

A copper would have to be pretty harsh to give you a fine and points straight up, more like they'd give you a vehicle defect notice. You'd have to fix the fault and get it checked at an MOT center (thus removing the HIDS). If you reinstalled them after the check and the police caught you again they'd then fine and give you points.

But as Phil pointed out, they are now illegal if they are an aftermarket kit

 

[Biker]

they are now illegal if they are an aftermarket kit

They always have been illegal, the difference now being the powers that be have decided to enforce the law.

 

[sicasey]

Don't do it. They look crap.

 

[streetbeef]

They all scatter just because you haven't been flashed doesn't mean they don't scatter.. Fact is there illegal, You will fail an MOT and if you get stopped (like there doing in MK) it is £60 and possible points. There have also been recent cases of insurance claims being voided.

If you wanted them.............. you should of had the option

i had the exact same kit on my mk3 cupra and that went through an mot last year?? and if i wanted them i would have ordered xenons from the factory, fact is i got an ex demo for 13k with 3k miles on it so you work out what was the best to do!

 

[yea_good_1]

ive been infront of streetbeef on the way home from work and have never had any issues with them blinding me in any mirrors. following him you can clearly see they arent all over the show they are absolutely fine and look the nuts. dont worry streetbeef this kid dont know what hes going on about. run the car to simplys next week and get them to mock test the lights put an end to this one.

 

[Biker]

run the car to simplys next week and get them to mock test the lights put an end to this one.

Wake up and smell the coffee..........

If you fit HID lamps to a headlamp designed for a tungsten halogen lamp, it is illegal. There are no grey areas. It doesent matter how many of your mates will say they don't glare, they are illegal.

 

[yea_good_1]

he still hasn't got it yet has he have a read

http://www.convert2xenon.co.uk/xenon-hid-bulbs/133-h7r-hid-xenon-replacement-bulbs.html

if you can read then it says they are covered in an anti glare coating and it was designed using mercedes benz technololgy your not saying merc are selling cars that wont go through an mot???? it also says they are e marked what more do you want ?

oh hang on heres another website that says anti glare read the reviews at the bottom aswel they all say they are fine.

http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7r-anti-glare-replacement-hid-bulbs.html

anti glare hey? e marked? sounds like an mot pass to me as long as the beam pattern is fine wich it should be in a brand new car

anyone thinking of getting HID's get the H7R's 6000K and youll be fine

 

[dannychapman10]

So you pay a small amount for the HIDS but yet you will have to pay out alot for self levelling and headlamp washers?
That is what they now test this year, if your car has Xenon headlamps, they test for self levelers and a washing system for the headlights.

 

[VRSLOZ]

he still hasn't got it yet has he have a read

http://www.convert2xenon.co.uk/xenon-hid-bulbs/133-h7r-hid-xenon-replacement-bulbs.html

if you can read then it says they are covered in an anti glare coating and it was designed using mercedes benz technololgy your not saying merc are selling cars that wont go through an mot???? it also says they are e marked what more do you want ?

oh hang on heres another website that says anti glare read the reviews at the bottom aswel they all say they are fine.

http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7r-anti-glare-replacement-hid-bulbs.html

anti glare hey? e marked? sounds like an mot pass to me as long as the beam pattern is fine wich it should be in a brand new car

anyone thinking of getting HID's get the H7R's 6000K and youll be fine

You need to read the whole law outlined about them, it's not just the glare caused that is making them illegal. Yes the H7R bulbs are A LOT better than normal H7 HID kits when it comes to glare and beam patterns and yes those bulbs ARE E-Marked but the E-Mark only counts when you have headlight washers and self leveling (sp) headlights. Without those two things those bulbs might as well not have the E-Mark on them. It shouldn't pass an MOT on a car, true some MOT testers might not care too much and might turn a blind eye but you could get one that will spot them straight away and fail you for having them.

And remember not everything you read is true, just because it says it's "designed using Mercedes Benz technology" doesn't mean it's true.

I myself did fancy a H7R kit as it would have been spot on for my car but I'm in two minds with all the new MOT law.

 

[phil_monk31]

A copper would have to be pretty harsh to give you a fine and points straight up, more like they'd give you a vehicle defect notice. You'd have to fix the fault and get it checked at an MOT center (thus removing the HIDS). If you reinstalled them after the check and the police caught you again they'd then fine and give you points.

But as Phil pointed out, they are now illegal if they are an aftermarket kit

They have been doing on the spot VORSA checks in MK on Sundays (Cruise night) Sorry mate should of said that