K03/04 - GT Bolt on 1.8T

[cupra-neil]

The GT2X kit works out at todays exchange rate £766, would this turbo fit onto the standard ibiza exhaust manifold?

Neil

 

[ibizacupra]

TBH I'm not sure Bill - i've not heard from jabba for a long, long time (i kept sending them an email every 3 months or so to check on progress and then forgot for a bit.. and they've not been back to me since..) - the cars piling up the miles now/getting older and so am I As you like to say, whatever you've got you want just that 'bit more' and thats where i am now - the car is quick, a lot quicker than most but... arggh.
I'm currently trying to decide whether to call jabba or others (now we seem to have choice) and go for it - or get a runabout car for work and something exotic for a weekender (for some reason i've an obsession with the Noble M12). Sure the latter is more expensive, but it's a proper fast car from the get-go whereas the leon will always be a fast family car no matter what i do to it. Third option is (and you'll like this) get an Ibiza as a project car (not the new one, I hate that - the proper one ) and BT upgrade that. Lot less weight, less cost (at least cost of buying one) could be fun and I believe you've some experience in the area
BT stuff seems to be interesting at last - nothing for 2 years and now we're hearing about all sorts of interesting options from a number of tuners. Good stuff.


Long and short of it is that I really don't know what to do but it's all on hold for a few weeks until the wife starts a new job and we've got the dual income again.

I know a little bit about BT and living with them... and will shortly be able to offer FULL conversion, drive in, drive out on IHI conversions using Jabba's manifold, including mapping VVT non DBW models etc.

Things are afoot.

Should be interesting.

 

[dangel]

I know a little bit about BT and living with them... and will shortly be able to offer FULL conversion, drive in, drive out on IHI conversions using Jabba's manifold, including mapping VVT non DBW models etc.

Things are afoot.

Should be interesting.

Well you've already got my credit card number Bill Seriously tho - do let me know when it's really all there and we'll have a chat. Are you doing courtesy cars too? You could just let me borrow the Ibiza for a bit.. I'm not fussy
I think if I go ahead with it i'll talk with a number of tuners (JBS, Jabba, yourself) and see what they have to offer in terms of knowledge and price. I'm also interested in progression - i.e. can I do it in moderate stages to stagger the overall cost? I obviously want to do it right tho - reliability and longevity are very important to me.

You seem to keep finding ways to make me want to give you money Bill - you are a very very bad man indeed

Oh, and if you need a test car... i'm sure i can negotiate a good deal

 

[ibizacupra]

Well you've already got my credit card number Bill Seriously tho - do let me know when it's really all there and we'll have a chat. Are you doing courtesy cars too? You could just let me borrow the Ibiza for a bit.. I'm not fussy
I think if I go ahead with it i'll talk with a number of tuners (JBS, Jabba, yourself) and see what they have to offer in terms of knowledge and price. I'm also interested in progression - i.e. can I do it in moderate stages to stagger the overall cost? I obviously want to do it right tho - reliability and longevity are very important to me.

You seem to keep finding ways to make me want to give you money Bill - you are a very very bad man indeed

Oh, and if you need a test car... i'm sure i can negotiate a good deal

I will post an update in Badger5 section shortly..
Stepped up a gear in what I will be able to do and offer.
VAG Specialist fitting, 2 x ex-dealer techs, new products and services coming very soon.

BT kit (IHI/Jabba manifold) with mapping to suit.

 

[ryan_s3]

Interesting developements Bill,good luck to you.

 

[Stevo1]

Good on you Bill, sounds quality

 

[Madmile]

I will post an update in Badger5 section shortly..
Stepped up a gear in what I will be able to do and offer.
VAG Specialist fitting, 2 x ex-dealer techs, new products and services coming very soon.

BT kit (IHI/Jabba manifold) with mapping to suit.

I think its a good move Bill and i feel sure it will work out well for you. Best of luck but i dont think you will need it to be honest. I think a visit to jabba for me is in order as the car feels very slow and the only way to be sure if its performing as it should is a go on jabbas rollers to ease my mind. Its boosting on the guage fine its had a new maf but theres a niggling feeling its not performing.

 

[Yumann]

Dangel you still not got it jabbaed? Didnt they give you a date of last june or something? Then put you off.

Thats crazy, ive been on the list for 19-20 months now and its just to long . TBH i dont think they are interested as they have not even bothered to call me back.

Go to JBS there taking bookings for there GT28rs conversion round bout now.

There willing to take your deposit and start fabircating and gathering the neccessary parts.

Go on you know you want to

 

[Songman]

Big Turbo Blues

I too know how Dangle feels - I have been chasing all and sundry for almost 3 years - APR, Jabba etc -trying to get them to produce a st 3 kit for the1.8T in RHD form.
The Cupra R is such a great car with tremendous potential which we in this country are not able to exploit, becaust the Tuners won`t/can`t supply the goods for us- If we drove on the right side of the road, most of us would be running round with 350bhp motors.
Every time i get wasted by one of the locals hot shot Imprezza/evo/celica/M3 I get more angry, at their unwillingness/inability to cater for our needs.

The problem of availability for the Cupra R lies not so much with the hardware, but more so with the software programming - the latest Bosch 7.5 ECU, are heavily encrypted and difficult toaccess for the major changes that a big turbo conversion involves.
The earlier ECU for the throttle cable cars are much easier to encode.
APR will shortly release a 380 bhp set st3+ in the States,and I am assured that APR Australia is going to produce a RHD version in the not too distant future - the long wait continues!!

 

[ibizacupra]

I too know how Dangle feels - I have been chasing all and sundry for almost 3 years - APR, Jabba etc -trying to get them to produce a st 3 kit for the1.8T in RHD form.
The Cupra R is such a great car with tremendous potential which we in this country are not able to exploit, becaust the Tuners won`t/can`t supply the goods for us- If we drove on the right side of the road, most of us would be running round with 350bhp motors.
Every time i get wasted by one of the locals hot shot Imprezza/evo/celica/M3 I get more angry, at their unwillingness/inability to cater for our needs.

The problem of availability for the Cupra R lies not so much with the hardware, but more so with the software programming - the latest Bosch 7.5 ECU, are heavily encrypted and difficult toaccess for the major changes that a big turbo conversion involves.
The earlier ECU for the throttle cable cars are much easier to encode.
APR will shortly release a 380 bhp set st3+ in the States,and I am assured that APR Australia is going to produce a RHD version in the not too distant future - the long wait continues!!

Later ECU with VVT and BT, IHI conversion is not an issue.
We have the technology (shortly) to do this, and certainly have the "lived with" experience of IHI.

RHD drive conversions remain with JBS's for GT28(derivitive) and Jabba manifold and IHI (spec'd) turbo. Jabba manifold is proven.

My new engine retains this, but with larger IHI on it.. (cant wait.. and *hope* existing engine lasts until its ready.... its very very tired I think... smoking now )

 

[Songman]

Thanks for the post and the insight Bill - I know by repute that you have vast experience of the IHI, warts and all!!
I am heartened that at last someone is taking up the challenge to support all the power starved Cupra men in RHDland - "there`s gold in `em `er hills!"
I will contact you.

 

[RobDon]

The ATP Eliminators turbos for Audi longitudinal applications are out now! GT2X kit which offers 300 crank is $1295 and the GTRS which is 350 crank is $1595.

FWD has been delayed for 6 weeks, so should be out mid August. I'll be going for the FWD GT2X kit as soon as they are out, with extra mods I should make more than 300 crank if they can do it on a stock Audi A4 1.8T - stock exhaust, stock IC, etc.!

Well done Bill - sounds like a great thing you're about to do.

 

[ryan_s3]

I know that jabba are very close to being ready for the cupra r ihi kit.They have been doing some testing this week and it has looked promising.

 

[RobDon]

Found this thread on Vortex, gives testament to the strength of the 1.8T standard internals - this guy says he ran 10k miles with 400whp and the internals looks mint after 10k of hard driving!

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2067272

HUGE turbo!!!

"its been a fun adventure... just got the head back from jose at LR engineering, and got my pistons from chris green at USP all today...
started breaking down the stocker motor... and much to my surprise, after 10k miles of hard abuse, and a few 400+whp passes on the dyno, the rods looked immaculate... pistons look immaculate, and rod bearings look like they had never even been used... lol
very very surprised..."

 

[Cupra_power]

Bloody hell , why bother with an engine ? looks like he`s strapped a gas turbine on... you could suck up small animals with that thing.

 

[ryan_s3]

Looks like a gt30/35 ,probably be ok at low boost,ie good power with low torque....drive would be crap though.

 

[Songman]

The ATP Eliminators turbos for Audi longitudinal applications are out now! GT2X kit which offers 300 crank is $1295 and the GTRS which is 350 crank is $1595.

FWD has been delayed for 6 weeks, so should be out mid August. I'll be going for the FWD GT2X kit as soon as they are out, with extra mods I should make more than 300 crank if they can do it on a stock Audi A4 1.8T - stock exhaust, stock IC, etc.!

Well done Bill - sounds like a great thing you're about to do.

These kits sound great Rob but i`d still be concerned about the software side - I have it on good authority that therehave been some `disasters` already - Remaps with the standard kit only require a few files to be changed in the ECU - once you start going to big turbos, fatter injectors, it`s a whole new ballgame!
The talent to do this is out there,as is the motivation - guess it`s just the time and the money involved
I would have had an IHI kit adapted and fitted two years ago if it was at all possible - the hardware is no great problem - I`d spoken to Jim Curley about doing the job - it was just the software.
JBS and Custom Code seem to have cracked it, and that is fantastic news - I can`t wait! - APR have too - their kit is a jewel, if we could only get it!
I have just fitted an APR 3" downpipe and cat to my LCR and i`m going to JABBA on Aug 8th for a custom remap, so I hope then to hear good news about their IHI kits - I`ve been on the list for 2 years now!!!

 

[vrsix_]

you could suck up small animals with that thing.

ROLFMAO

But on topic again,is there any news on this GT2X ??

Isn't the price tag a little too high compared to the GT28RS?

 

[YerMother]

ROLFMAO

But on topic again,is there any news on this GT2X ??

Isn't the price tag a little too high compared to the GT28RS?

Says 6 week delay

$1295 is about right! Remember it is a bolt-on (will probably need a map to suit aswell so say another $500) standard manifold, exhaust etc. GT28RS has alot more costs involved!

 

[vrsix_]

Hmm sounds very interesting indeed,will this s*cker work with REVO stg 2 software?