K03/04 - GT Bolt on 1.8T

[Feel]

That's right John, a difference in requested and actual greater than a tolerance and it'll go into limp. Some of the yenks with MBCs clamp the output signal of the MAP sensor. God knows how they control fuelling.

Rob - I'm really surprised that you went for the GT2X - Everyone seems to think it'll do about the same as a K04-20, which is what your hybrid did I thought you would've gone GTRS to have some gains.

Also, if the GT2X DOES make roughly the same as a K04, I still wonder why Jim wants extra boost control? Again, I'm not knocking him because it's clear he's done some very good stuff, and that he's been doing it longer than a lot of others. Just wondering, that's all. Next thing is a lot of people saying "yeah, but you NEED extra boost control to run an eliminator".

It'll be interesting to see what a Brit GT2X does though...

Has anyone else got one on yet?

 

[DDX]

i'm also thinking about upgrading my lcr's k04
not sure yet if i should go for the gtrs or gt2871r ?
(looks like both upgrades are possible for about the same price)

been reading 350-400 is about the max you should go for with stock internals
so i would say the gtrs is the option to go for then, but what about the gt2871r and maybe a bit lower boost ?

 

[YerMother]

i'm also thinking about upgrading my lcr's k04
not sure yet if i should go for the gtrs or gt2871r ?
(looks like both upgrades are possible for about the same price)

been reading 350-400 is about the max you should go for with stock internals
so i would say the gtrs is the option to go for then, but what about the gt2871r and maybe a bit lower boost ?

Its more like 350 on stock LCR internals! I think on a FWD car the GTRS is the better option! It will still give you nearly 100 more BHP than what you have now!

 

[DDX]

Ok but is this gtrs 350bhp number reachable or is it just on paper ?
and what about running a gt2871r on a lower boost ?

 

[YerMother]

I think with the right set with the GTRS, 350 should easily be achievable, especially with the high flow manifold they are going to be releasing shortly! It will be more driveable with the GTRS too! The GT2871R may be slightly too big, too laggy for use as an everyday car!

I don't see the point in getting the GT2871R and running it at a lower boost, unless your plan is to uprate the internals at a later date?

 

[ryan_s3]

I don't think the gt28rs is that responsive and to get near 350bhp you will need the .86 a/r which is fairly laggy.

 

[DDX]

I'm going to talk to my tuner, looks like the gtrs is a nice upgrade

 

[ryan_s3]

I reckon 320bhp with resonable spool.

 

[sportuner]

Hi, I have a Gt2x on cordoba cupra, but is not finalized all, I need 440cc inyectors for give it more pressure, at the moment just by 0.75 Bar.....

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6524/cupra10kr.jpg

another one with more pressure, of GT2x??

 

[cupra R con]

BTTT, it would be good to hear more about the 'eliminator' turbo.

 

[Darth Tater]

Guys

Really enjoyed reading this thread

Cant really comment on the technical side of things as it's way over my head

I am however seriously interested in the Eliminator GTRS as a replacement for my K04 on the LCR

I'm hoping for a headline figure of about 340 bhp as I don't plan to upgrade internals as yet. Bit disspaointed to read above it might be laggy so this is something I'll speak to Big Boys Toys about as they will be carrying out the work. If they're happy it won't be too much different to the K04 in terms of spool/response etc I'll most likely go with it. Will post back in here in due course as it seems it's potentially of interest to others

If anyone has any seriuos misgivings about this plan of action I'd be grateful to hear those thoughts

 

[YerMother]

If you go bigger you can't get away from lag! The GTRS is bound to have a lower spool rate than that of a k04 you can't get away from that sorry mate!

 

[Darth Tater]

If you go bigger you can't get away from lag! The GTRS is bound to have a lower spool rate than that of a k04 you can't get away from that sorry mate!

I guess so but I was thinking that other factors could be adusted to compensate for whatever process actually causes lag . As stated above I don't have much technical comprehension of the ins and outs. I'll have a chat with the guys and see what they say as I think they've fitted some to other VAG cars. Not sure if they've done a Leon as yet though.

 

[Jonah]

I'm still waiting for eliminator and gt28rs from the States - have been since February!!!!

Had 5 promises of shipping so far....

Ryan is right looking at 320 bhp in order to map out as much lag as possible but also saving the stock internals somewhat. Will need to upgrade to FMIC and bigger injectors NOT greentops but something like LCR or S3 types.

 

[Darth Tater]

I'm still waiting for eliminator and gt28rs from the States - have been since February!!!!

Had 5 promises of shipping so far....

Ryan is right looking at 320 bhp in order to map out as much lag as possible but also saving the stock internals somewhat. Will need to upgrade to FMIC and bigger injectors NOT greentops but something like LCR or S3 types.

Big Boys Toys apparently have them in stock mate

FMIC went in recently for Revo Stage 2. I think there are a couple of bits required for Stage 3 but that shouldn't be a prob

Good luck with yours when the turbo finally arrives

I'll chat to BBT's re lag etc as I'm there on Monday for some other bits and see what sort of power level they reocommend to keep it to a minimum

 

[Jonah]

NOW HERE AND IT WILL BE FITTED ON THE WEEKEND - WEATHER DEPENDANT. ALL WITH TH HELP OF MY LOVELY ASSISTANT MARK - TAUGHT HIM ALL HE KNOWS

 

[cupra_matt]

My GT2X Kit has arrived at Star Performance, should have it for friday. Cant wait.

 

[Fruit And VAG]

I think with the right set with the GTRS, 350 should easily be achievable, especially with the high flow manifold they are going to be releasing shortly! It will be more driveable with the GTRS too! The GT2871R may be slightly too big, too laggy for use as an everyday car!

I don't see the point in getting the GT2871R and running it at a lower boost, unless your plan is to uprate the internals at a later date?

I think this is sense. The GT28RS is not a straight bolt-on and wont make such a great everyday car. The GTRS will have real advantages around town, but maybe the GT28RS with lower boost does allow internals to be modded later to make a better track day car, assuming you can do something about the extra lag?

I for one cannot wait to see some postings on the first bunch of you to install GTRS, GT2X and GT28RS for comparisons on overall performance, cost and lag times. Bring it on! My money is on the the GTRS as the best all-rounder for the price, but I aint forking out without seeing some proof in the pudding.

 

[lukecupra2001]

at the mo i have a lc with revo stage 2 and im realy liking the sound of these eliminator turbos after spending money on cat and dp etc.dont wanna go mad probs a steady 300-320bhp.its bad enough in the wet now.lol.i like what robdon done with his powerwise and was wondering if anybody else done this and had gud results.

 

[YerMother]

I think this is sense. The GT28RS is not a straight bolt-on and wont make such a great everyday car. The GTRS will have real advantages around town, but maybe the GT28RS with lower boost does allow internals to be modded later to make a better track day car, assuming you can do something about the extra lag?

I for one cannot wait to see some postings on the first bunch of you to install GTRS, GT2X and GT28RS for comparisons on overall performance, cost and lag times. Bring it on! My money is on the the GTRS as the best all-rounder for the price, but I aint forking out without seeing some proof in the pudding.

The GTRS is a bolt on version of the GT28RS! It has the same compressor housing just the turbine side that is different!

The three types of eliminators are GT2X GTRS & GT2871R (being the largest)