that...
ive used a few different oils and noticed some last longer than others but then none will last that long as i drive like a hoonigan lol.
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ive used a few different oils and noticed some last longer than others but then none will last that long as i drive like a hoonigan lol.
True its not a VAG specific issue. Another car I drive\maintain is an FN2 Type R. I soon spotted the top up kit in the boot and realised that it would burn oil. In truth it hardly burns any and the top up kit has never been opened. Some Type R's burn more than others but burning oil is fine as the Honda has an electronic oil gauge. In short, its as easy to own as a granny spec Honda Jazz. My old VW's Golf TDi 150 also had an electronic oil gauge. It just seems like penny pinching in the extreme. Does anyone know if the MK V Gti has an oil level gauge?
I don't use my odometer to see how far a tank goes, I use it to see how long I've got till I need to check the oil level.
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It's not really a drama I agree I just check mine every week it uses oil but that's the engines for you mines a petrol 1.4 tsi but it hasn't dampened my enjoyment of the car 
Just some comments...
Also havet a 2.0tfsi A4 and it needed topped up every 2k - 2.5k. That when I was driving it a lot, the missus drives it mostly now, and it takes a lot less oil, so the weight of your foot has an effect imo. Also the 2.0tfsi engine PCV has had a silly amount of revisions and a bad / old PCV can lead to higher consumption, also if the n249 is on its way out, that can lead to poor consumption. Easy to change PCV, n249 was a PIA for an ameture like me...
Finally the other car is (was, replaced with my FR) a ibiza ecomotive that never took a drop of oil in 30k.
I assumed the leons all have oil level sensors - is that not the case?
Cheers
Also havet a 2.0tfsi A4 and it needed topped up every 2k - 2.5k. That when I was driving it a lot, the missus drives it mostly now, and it takes a lot less oil, so the weight of your foot has an effect imo. Also the 2.0tfsi engine PCV has had a silly amount of revisions and a bad / old PCV can lead to higher consumption, also if the n249 is on its way out, that can lead to poor consumption. Easy to change PCV, n249 was a PIA for an ameture like me...
Finally the other car is (was, replaced with my FR) a ibiza ecomotive that never took a drop of oil in 30k.
I assumed the leons all have oil level sensors - is that not the case?
Cheers
Having just read through this whole thread, the one thing that has surprised me is that people don't check their oil weekly. Why not? Its part of owning a car. Where you not taught to when you learnt to drive?
Please tell me you check your tyre pressures weekly, and your brake fluid, and your washer fluid, and coolant and battery acid level every week. I can understand some people not checking, but these are the ones you see broken down by the side of the road waiting for a recovery truck for a flat tyre because the spare is flat. I thought people on car forums were enthusiasts, who by nature, would look after their pride and joy.
Sorry, rant over, didnt mean to offend anyone, I just amazed about the number of people who don't check something so basic.
It is pretty important. If you actually go down to no oil, then you will quickly run the bearings and need a new engine, at a four figure cost. The light is a pressure light, NOT a low level light. When that comes on, you are already doing damage.
Some cars have level warning, most do not. They are not actually reliable nor accurate in most cases, so I would still dip the oil every week. More of a gimmick than anything else. How would you know if it did not work, until it was too late? I would not say that not fitting a level warning is being a cheap skate. The one car I had with a level warning, it did not come on, even when the sump was drained when changing the oil. I will never trust one again, unless I have done a similar test and found it works.
There are loads of reasons why some engines burn oil while other engines of the same type, don't. The type (quality) of oil used, how heavy the drivers right foot is (especially when cold), how much idling, how much high revs, how often the oil has been changed etc.
Our Leon FR (2.0TFSI) has been topped up once in the 6 months / 2,000 miles we have owned it. That is more than some cars (some dont use a drop) but by no means the worst car I have owned. I cannot give you a consumption, as I topped it up when it was on min on the dipstick, but when we bought it, it was quite a way below the max.
Please tell me you check your tyre pressures weekly, and your brake fluid, and your washer fluid, and coolant and battery acid level every week. I can understand some people not checking, but these are the ones you see broken down by the side of the road waiting for a recovery truck for a flat tyre because the spare is flat. I thought people on car forums were enthusiasts, who by nature, would look after their pride and joy.
Sorry, rant over, didnt mean to offend anyone, I just amazed about the number of people who don't check something so basic.
It is pretty important. If you actually go down to no oil, then you will quickly run the bearings and need a new engine, at a four figure cost. The light is a pressure light, NOT a low level light. When that comes on, you are already doing damage.
Some cars have level warning, most do not. They are not actually reliable nor accurate in most cases, so I would still dip the oil every week. More of a gimmick than anything else. How would you know if it did not work, until it was too late? I would not say that not fitting a level warning is being a cheap skate. The one car I had with a level warning, it did not come on, even when the sump was drained when changing the oil. I will never trust one again, unless I have done a similar test and found it works.
There are loads of reasons why some engines burn oil while other engines of the same type, don't. The type (quality) of oil used, how heavy the drivers right foot is (especially when cold), how much idling, how much high revs, how often the oil has been changed etc.
Our Leon FR (2.0TFSI) has been topped up once in the 6 months / 2,000 miles we have owned it. That is more than some cars (some dont use a drop) but by no means the worst car I have owned. I cannot give you a consumption, as I topped it up when it was on min on the dipstick, but when we bought it, it was quite a way below the max.
Fellas' mine is about 1L every 1000 km.
Tried different viscosity's 0w40/0w30/5w30 => same result.
Service interval in 5000 Km (full oil and filters change)
It seems to be consuming more oil when running low, in crap traffic, idling a lot than running it on the redline!
PCV is on the last revision (the last one was fine when replaced).
Black exhaust pipes after 1day - my major problem
Mechanic at the dealer (close friend) said replacing piston rings, cleaning the intake valves etc CAN improve a little but from his experience it is not a permanent fix.
One other problem that makes oil go away so fast is the dilution. After a full oil change, in about 1week, the oil starts to smell like gasoline. This is due to the design of the engine. Once the oil mixes with fuel, it looses it's properties, becomes more volatile and evaporates more quickly.
Last year I have payed about 300Euro on oil alone (including 5000km full oil changes)...
One other problem is, that if you run your engine low on oil, it leads to faster wear of the cam follower/lobe. Without 5k oil changes and topping before it runs low, 1st cam follower was eaten in 30k! (totally eaten with a big whole in it) . After performing strict oil changes/adding up and another 40k, the cam follower is in good condition.
So watch out!
Tried different viscosity's 0w40/0w30/5w30 => same result.
Service interval in 5000 Km (full oil and filters change)
It seems to be consuming more oil when running low, in crap traffic, idling a lot than running it on the redline!
PCV is on the last revision (the last one was fine when replaced).
Black exhaust pipes after 1day - my major problem
Mechanic at the dealer (close friend) said replacing piston rings, cleaning the intake valves etc CAN improve a little but from his experience it is not a permanent fix.
One other problem that makes oil go away so fast is the dilution. After a full oil change, in about 1week, the oil starts to smell like gasoline. This is due to the design of the engine. Once the oil mixes with fuel, it looses it's properties, becomes more volatile and evaporates more quickly.
Last year I have payed about 300Euro on oil alone (including 5000km full oil changes)...
One other problem is, that if you run your engine low on oil, it leads to faster wear of the cam follower/lobe. Without 5k oil changes and topping before it runs low, 1st cam follower was eaten in 30k! (totally eaten with a big whole in it) . After performing strict oil changes/adding up and another 40k, the cam follower is in good condition.
So watch out!
As a comparison, my 2009 petrol Fr mapped got through half a dip sticks worth of oil in a round 1000 mile trip over a weekend a few weeks ago.
Alex
Alex
It is common issue on tsfi engines.
Im driving petrol FR 2009 with stage 1 ecu upgrade and im getting around. 5000km/ 1litre of castrol Edge 5w-30.
As i´ve seen the results about some ones taking much more oil, this amount wont worry me.
But 1000km/1l is way too much. (well according to dealers this is still normal).
Im driving petrol FR 2009 with stage 1 ecu upgrade and im getting around. 5000km/ 1litre of castrol Edge 5w-30.
As i´ve seen the results about some ones taking much more oil, this amount wont worry me.
But 1000km/1l is way too much. (well according to dealers this is still normal).
I notice i start topping up the oil after a while after its had a oil change.
After the oil change i know it never goes down. I check it but its still the same level. Then after a few months ill keep checking it and soon enough it starts dropping slightly.
Then it gets a oil change and its fine again. the more you use your car the more crappy the oil gets and more chance of burning away
After the oil change i know it never goes down. I check it but its still the same level. Then after a few months ill keep checking it and soon enough it starts dropping slightly.
Then it gets a oil change and its fine again. the more you use your car the more crappy the oil gets and more chance of burning away
Have any of you with oil consumption issues checked your intercooler hoses ?
The o rings go and and oil blows past the seals and can relate to oil consumption
The o rings go and and oil blows past the seals and can relate to oil consumption
I've got an '07 petrol 2.0. TFSI. My Last VAG car was a MK IV Golf TDi 150. That car had an oil sensor and consumed an "acceptable" amount of oil.
I was a bit surprised that the Leon doesn't have and oil level sensor. (guessing the Golf GTI 2.0 does!).
I check my oil every 1k. I top up every 2k. Oil consumption is a lot higher when it's close to needing a service. It has caught me out once (oil level pressure light on for a second before I shut down !)
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I was a bit surprised that the Leon doesn't have and oil level sensor. (guessing the Golf GTI 2.0 does!).
I check my oil every 1k. I top up every 2k. Oil consumption is a lot higher when it's close to needing a service. It has caught me out once (oil level pressure light on for a second before I shut down !)
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I have a Leon Sport 2.0l tfsi 185bhp 2006. I have had the car 5yrs now, it's done 101,000 and have always regularly topped up with oil. Couldn't understand what was going on at first but I read somewhere in the handbook that it can use up to 1.0l oil every 1000 miles. I have never had any problems with the engine all the time I've had it. Fortunately my local Seat dealer does the oil cheaper than any of the local motorist shops at £30 for 5.0l.
I had a 2006 Leon Sport 185bhp Tfsi and when i first bought it i thought there was something wrong with it because i kept having to top it up and the oil warning light would come on. When i looked into it further it's normal for this engine. I would put about 1 litre of oil for every 1000 mile. I had the car for 7yrs and never had any engine problems or leaks. It just worked out expensive having to buy oil all the time. I must say that my local SEAT dealer always sold the oil cheaper than i could get it anywhere else. About £30 for 5L which surprised me at the time.
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