Neuspeed 28mm ARB

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Ruddmeister said:
Agreed it's on the Mk2 Golf which more than anything else is lighter, but if this applies to the Mk2 Golf then 'similar' priciples 'should' apply.

Think I will try and see if the Golf R32 22mm front ARB does fit on the LCR (as rumoured) if not then i'll buy a Neuspeed 25mm for the MK1V Golf.

Glad I haven't rushed things and personally I find it interesting to see the difference as I go along.......

If it don't rain i'll take mine out of the boot, fit it and tell you if it makes a diff at the w/e.
 

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Ruddmeister said:
Don't think this would help Yumann or improve turn in / flex at the front of the car.

Went for a drive last night to test some more. The car just doesn't like quick left right jinks eg. to avoid potholes etc. Seems unstable.

So a jink to the right takes a few milli seconds for the rear to react by then you have jinked to the left and by then the car is reacting to the previuos right jink. Unsettling the car.

However on long sweeping bends there is not problem nice and flat and very composed.
 
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Yumann said:
Went for a drive last night to test some more. The car just doesn't like quick left right jinks eg. to avoid potholes etc. Seems unstable.

So a jink to the right takes a few milli seconds for the rear to react by then you have jinked to the left and by then the car is reacting to the previuos right jink.

However on long sweeping bends there is not problem nice and flat and very composed.


Did you read the link on the last page from edc, the guy was advocating doing the front and rear ARB's (and obviously springs / dampers if poss).

Will let you know how the car feels with a fron ARB unless NeilC beats me to it
 

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Yumann said:
Went for a drive last night to test some more. The car just doesn't like quick left right jinks eg. to avoid potholes etc. Seems unstable.

So a jink to the right takes a few milli seconds for the rear to react by then you have jinked to the left and by then the car is reacting to the previuos right jink.

However on long sweeping bends there is not problem nice and flat and very composed.


Did you read the link on the last page from edc, the guy was advocating doing the front and rear ARB's together (and obviously springs / dampers if poss).

Will let you know how the car feels with a fron ARB unless NeilC beats me to it
 

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Ruddmeister said:
Did you read the link on the last page from edc, the guy was advocating doing the front and rear ARB's together (and obviously springs / dampers if poss).

Will let you know how the car feels with a fron ARB unless NeilC beats me to it

What arb you going for then?
 

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Yumann said:
What arb you going for then?


Have Grant at Westec lining up the R32 one.

But, will wander across the road later and speak to Neil at TSR, pick his brains on MK1V Golf's (his wife has a 1.8T now at 2.1lites) see what he has to offer etc.......but he's busy at the moment so will give him a while :D
 

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Ruddmeister said:
Have Grant at Westec lining up the R32 one.

But, will wander across the road later and speak to Neil at TSR, pick his brains on MK1V Golf's (his wife has a 1.8T now at 2.1lites) see what he has to offer etc.......but he's busy at the moment so will give him a while :D

Thats pretty class working/living across the rd from tsr. Doesnt get much better than that.
 

Ruddmeister

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Right, well, went accross and had a cup of coffee with Neal.

The man says what he did on his Passatt (very heavy front end, wide tyres and rolled like a pig) was fit the front ARB and then soften or harden the rear suspension to suit. Took a few track days and bit of fiddling but got the front leading and back following nicely after spending some time setting it up.

The kits from Eibach and H&R are pairs (front and rear).

Awesome or the R32 or the Standard LC one may be the answer......dunno now :D

Going to try a larger front ARB, if I don't like it i'll take it off and flog it.....
 

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if you're feeling clever - make up some brackets to make teh front adjustable, so you can whip the wheels off, move the connection along, softening it for winter.
 

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I started to wonder if you could stiffen the front with some different tie bars....

cut n' shut feel to the rescue!

Then again, probably a lot easier to just buy a different front ARB :hide:
 

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Well I'm back and I have the front and rear ARB's done now......think me and my car are going to need some "Quality" time to get to know each other again.

Did about 10 miles on A-roads mainly, sort of 40mph up to 100 (KM/h ;) ) and the car feels very different.

To answer some of the queries the front does follow the back better now, car feels sharper and responds to input better (less delay than the rear only).

The car corners Very flat now, although I haven;t got anywhere near the limits, tried pushing it and the car took it in it's stride......the cornering speeds scared me hence why me and the car need some "Quality" time.

The car doesn't feel unwieldy my reservation are about just how quick I'd have to go to find the limits.......guess that's what track days are for.

Fairly unsurprisingly the car feels very stiff and as my daily driver I would probably in retrospect go for a little more compliance. In fact I hear H&R and Eibach do pairs of ARB's which would be cheaper and I probably don;t need anything as extreme as 25mm (F) and 28mm (Rear), I think 22mm (F) and 25mm (rear) would be more than adequate.

Big questions to answer are still regarding understeer particulalrly in the wet, guess I will have to wait and see on that one.
 

Yumann

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What arb did you get?

Ive notice my esp is constanly going off on the twisties and its getting annoying. Never use to be like that. I reckon the rear arb imspires more confidence to push harder.
 
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