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New Leon mk4 thoughts

SRGTD

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May 26, 2014
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Just trying to work out what the benefit of having the eTSI is over the straight petrol 1.5 when the 'hybrid' is quoted on the pricelist as having a worse CO2 figure and (slightly) worse mpg as well as costing £2K more :think:
I think the difference is the transmission. It looks as if the1.5 eTSI mild hybrid is DSG only whereas the straight petrol 1.5 TSI only comes with a manual gearbox, so a large chunk of the extra £2k for the mild hybrid will be for the cost of the DSG transmission.

An article in Autocar states that VW are claiming the1.5 eTSI in the mk8 Golf is around 10% more economical than the conventional 1.5 TSI engine - presumably this would also be the case with the Leon. The problem is, because the1.5 eTSI is DSG only and the conventional 1.5 TSI is manual only, its not possible to validate this mpg claim as you can’t compare mpg figures of;
  • a 1.5 eTSI / DSG to a 1.5 TSI / DSG as there isn’t a 1.5 TSI / DSG.
  • a 1.5 eTSI / manual to a 1.5 TSI / manual as there isn‘t a manual 1.5eTSI.
Autocar article at the link below;

 
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Seriously?

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I think the difference is the transmission. It looks as if the1.5 eTSI mild hybrid is DSG only whereas the straight petrol 1.5 TSI only comes with a manual gearbox, so a large chunk of the extra £2k for the mild hybrid will be for the cost of the DSG transmission.

An article in Autocar states that VW are claiming the1.5 eTSI in the mk8 Golf is around 10% more economical than the conventional 1.5 TSI engine - presumably this would also be the case with the Leon. The problem is, because the1.5 eTSI is DSG only and the conventional 1.5 TSI is manual only, its not possible to validate this mpg claim as you can’t compare mpg figures of;
  • a 1.5 eTSI / DSG to a 1.5 TSI / DSG as there isn’t a 1.5 TSI / DSG.
  • a 1.5 eTSI / manual to a 1.5 TSI / manual as there isn‘t a manual 1.5eTSI.
Autocar article at the link below;

Good point well made; it's not possible to compare like-for-like. I wonder what the rationale for not offering a DSG with the straight petrol model is? Or maybe it'll arrive at a later date.
 
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Goot

There Can Be Only One!
Sep 9, 2002
383
2
Cheshire
Is the Leon still due to get the 2.0 TSI 190PS engine? Do we have any idea on UK availability?
 

AndrewJB

Friend to SEAT UK & Cupra Racing
Aug 16, 2007
11,011
425
East London E1-E2-E13
Currently got a FR 1.5 130PS

I like the car itself, I just don't like the 130ps lump, dont think I'd like the 150ps either to be honest, FR needs 200+
 

Sparkie

Angling Adict.
Sep 25, 2009
2,157
528
Middlesex
New Leon looks like a Focus.
Big No No.


Badger5 Custom Map + TIP,
3”Custom exhaust, FMIC, Bosh 550’s, BC Coilovers, ARB’s +loads more.
 

Vag8

Active Member
Jul 5, 2019
40
18
Yeah the manual it’s geared long as anything so need to drop about 3 cogs to overtake. Even then overtaking is still scary
overtaking requires 3 weeks notice in writing.... and when you do drop the cogs the engine is loud and and unrefined.

one of the worst engines in what otherwise is a good car, came from the old 1.4 150 act and they are worlds apart in performance and driving enjoyment.
 
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