Next generation EA888 2.0T engine.

[WeeG]

Spoke to a well known "tuner" (not salesman) about this very topic. He did say the 2.0 tsi was easier to obtain more power from with bolt ons. However it wasn't as reliable as far as internals were concerned as the tfsi designed for the KO4 variant.
He had actually tried and tested a brand new out of the wrappergolfgti with "balls out software" Running at just over 400 bhp with the KO4 and various bolts ons. This was all done in Germany last summer. engine had a few thousand on the clock and after 15-20 miles of WOT at between 130-160mph on autobahn routes, piston 4 gave up the ghost. THankfully the car was owned by a german VW dealer who got a new engine under warranty. But similair tests he said were done on the KO4 tfsi and there have been no internal failures while testing himself.
Some of you will know the man. Finland is his origin..... likes fish

 

[Al]

Engine code is CDLA for the Cupra r so saying it does not exhaust is not correct

Look at the lug on the drivers side of the engine near the top of the rocker cover - guess what the code is (clue - it isn't CDLA)

Sure it says CDLA in the book like it does in the S3 just as mine says CDLD - the engine itself is CDL though

 

[Benjic2]

I have the EA888 in my fr. Great engine, and as mentioned when I decide to go k04 after Christmas it should be pushing 400 hp without the need for HPFP. I have changed the oil 4 times in my 8 month ownership and it has never used a drop. Strange about the reliability issue as someone on the golf gti forum is running 501hp on standard internals haha ! APR software if I am not mistaken. I think it was recommended to upgrade them but he didn't do it. I believe the engine didn't come with k04 because of the development time involved and the imminent release of the mk6 gti not soon after.

 

[Benjic2]

Oh and the EA888 uses an IHI turbo and not a k03. They are both the same casing due to the design so that is why people get confused as they look the same. I checked this when I was changing my downpipe, it has IHI stamped on it

 

[robdf2]

Oh and the EA888 uses an IHI turbo and not a k03. They are both the same casing due to the design so that is why people get confused as they look the same. I checked this when I was changing my downpipe, it has IHI stamped on it

It certainly does , o was geeting a bit confused when people were talking about K03 , thought they were talking about the old engine lol.

i know APR has had some very good results with the TSI engine.
If you look on the yank forums you will see a lot of TSI converted converted to KO4 ruuning relaible high numbers.
I believe the fuel system in the TSI is far superior to that of our old design TFSI engines.

TBH a mk6 gti well specced car with an upgrade will be one very quick car especially in dsg mode.

 

[Redemption]

It certainly does , o was geeting a bit confused when people were talking about K03 , thought they were talking about the old engine lol.

i know APR has had some very good results with the TSI engine.
If you look on the yank forums you will see a lot of TSI converted converted to KO4 ruuning relaible high numbers.
I believe the fuel system in the TSI is far superior to that of our old design TFSI engines.

TBH a mk6 gti well specced car with an upgrade will be one very quick car especially in dsg mode.

The EA888 engine is also in the Audi TT Quattro S-Line 2.0 TFSI. A K04 conversion on one of those would be worth a go as it has 4WD to get the power down. Add in S-Tronic as well and you'd have some serious fun. Although, it might be cheaper to get a TT-RS.

 

[Al]

TTRS, S4 and RS3 all get approx 410bhp with a map alone and they have the added benefit if 5/6 cylinder engine note too.

Saying that a Leon FR DSG with the EA888 and k04 turbo would be quicker than a S2+ Cupra/Cupra R for sure with extra power and faster gear changes.

 

[Benjic2]

TTRS, S4 and RS3 all get approx 410bhp with a map alone and they have the added benefit if 5/6 cylinder engine note too.

Saying that a Leon FR DSG with the EA888 and k04 turbo would be quicker than a S2+ Cupra/Cupra R for sure with extra power and faster gear changes.

Don't tempt me Al

 

[Al]

Would be a no brainer for me bud. Get it done!

 

[Benjic2]

I was planning on doing it early next year anyway so we will see ! Depends if the new cupra is worth waiting for.. If it isn't then k04 here I come

 

[RobH]

I might be wrong but im pretty sure theres a problem with the TSI eating K04 turbos as they cant supply enough oil to them or something.

Just saying might be wrong.

 

[Redemption]

I was planning on doing it early next year anyway so we will see ! Depends if the new cupra is worth waiting for.. If it isn't then k04 here I come

Treat yourself for Christmas.

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=368830

 

[Benjic2]

I haven't heard of that rob, can you remember where you saw/heard it?
Ooo redemption why have you shown me that ! May have to enquire about a price. Thing is though I'm not sure where I would have it done!

 

[YIN]

I haven't heard of that rob, can you remember where you saw/heard it?
Ooo redemption why have you shown me that ! May have to enquire about a price. Thing is though I'm not sure where I would have it done!

One of the Lads on the MK5 forum(geordie56) has lost 2 turbos on his track prepared scirocco


"Its oil surge and starvation that the car suffers with when you are on track with sticky tyres and a good chassis setup. The potential cornering forces starve the turbo of its oil hence big plumes of white smoke and new turbos. The TFSI doesnt suffer with this as the sump/oil lines are better designed"

 

[RobH]

See, knew id seen it somewhere cheers Yin

Obviously his is a mental track car but, theres an underlying problem there...

 

[Benjic2]

Yep redemption just sent me the link How can it be an underlying problem due to one persons experience? Hundreds if not thousands have the upgrade and this is the first I have seen of this issue. A turbo could go on a standard car twice and they could be completed unrelated. Revo and APR have had theirs for about 3 years and they have obviously been pushed to the absolute limits on 1/4 miles and on tracks, neither have them have had a problem with it so I don't see it as something to worry about