Nightmare - any ideas?

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Richie
Feb 15, 2011
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Just read your whole thread and would like to say i'm gutted for you mate.
I would speak to a Official Seat garage and ask how many hours it would take to remove the cylinder head (most garages have fixed pricing based on x amount of hours required) even for massive jobs.
Speak to the garage and instruct them to remove the head for inspection this will be enough to determine if the engine is completely ruined or if its repairable, i would imagine 3-4 hours so expect a guidline of 350-500 quid.
The problem at the moment is you have no idea if its really knackered or not, could it be something like the injectors knackered and filled the cylinder with fuel and now its hydraulic'd.
OR..
Have the garage tried to turn the crank over backwards - i.e does it move at all before it reaches top dead centre of the affected piston.
I'm not too familiar with the modern diesels but is there anyway to take the inlet manifold off or injector out and get an endoscope to look into the cylinder.
Chin up mate even if the engine is knackered there are real bargains on ebay, there are companies that can supply and fit engines.
What engine code is it ?? there is a new engine for £2.5k for a dsg car.

Graham, I was thinkin about pointing the lad in your direction because you know your stuff!!
 
Aug 16, 2007
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I too would get it to a trade-able condition the cheapest possibly way, then get rid.

My last two cars were on their last legs when I traded them, and my only regret was not seeing them actually expire in the days after I got rid of them.

Just thinking outside the box a little, would there be any issues fitting a second hand engine from a Golf, Octavia, A3? It may just boost your chances of finding a used engine to fit straight in....
 

Nath.

The Gentlemans Express
Jan 1, 2006
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EASTLEIGH, HAMPSHIRE
Thank goodness you're unable to do the illegal thing some moron on here suggested. I for one would not wish my insurance premium to rise because of fraudulent claims such as that!

Good luck with whichever (legal) option you persue.

I'll second that. Idiotic suggestion by an idiot.

Hope it works out for you mate - fixing the current engine would be the best option and I don't see why it should devalue the car - it's just like any other fix you might have done to a car.

Good luck.


I will be interested to know how much out of pocket the OP is when he eventually trades it in with it's replacement/repaired engine. I bet he wishes he had torched it. The idiot is the one who spends £1000's for no reason or sets fire to their house/family whilst attempting to burn worthless rubbish on their drive.

If it was me this thread wouldn't have exsisted, it would instead be a thread about a Leon that caught fire on a dark country lane at 03:00 (due to an electrical fault) :D We've all seen it either in real life or on the TV.
 
Jun 7, 2006
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I will be interested to know how much out of pocket the OP is when he eventually trades it in with it's replacement/repaired engine. I bet he wishes he had torched it. The idiot is the one who spends £1000's for no reason or sets fire to their house/family whilst attempting to burn worthless rubbish on their drive.

If it was me this thread wouldn't have exsisted, it would instead be a thread about a Leon that caught fire on a dark country lane at 03:00 (due to an electrical fault) :D We've all seen it either in real life or on the TV.

is that whilst the front door was kicked in and the keys stollen from the side table just next to the door with the big FAT RED SEAT logo on it. they also accidently knocked the TV Over in an attempt to find the keys and steal other things smashing it and needing a new one.

the car was however taken by the joy riders and ditched a few miles down then torched due to the fact life was unbarable with the amount of rattles inside the Seat Leon cabin.

think i saw this in an episode of Torchwood.:whistle:
 

Nath.

The Gentlemans Express
Jan 1, 2006
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EASTLEIGH, HAMPSHIRE
New idea for the OP.

Tow it to Tottenham, job done. :yes: clicky Who wants to have a look and see if any of them start, have blocked up DPF's or faulty injectors? :rolleyes: There will be so many fire damage claims yours will sail through.
 

Mr Cellotape

AKA Mr Ribbed
May 9, 2006
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The OP may wish to consider reading the Sale of Goods Act as previously mentioned..;)

That would be where I would make a stand with SEAT.

I recommend:-
1) Check the service history with regards to use fo SEAT approved parts and VAT.
2) Then drop the car into your SEAT garage and have them review and ask for a full report.
3) Should items 1&2 be ok then take SEAT UK to task o nthe SALE of Goods ACT.

If they go on about the warranty, point them at the Sale of Goods Act and tell them it is law. :D

Write down all conversations. (date, time,who).
Go into writting and deliver all letters by recorded delivery.

Failing that didn't Audi do a very good 240BHP 3.0 TDI unit???? :D
 

GrahamFR

Now AMG Powered
Dec 10, 2008
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while were on the subject, i wonder if with a little bonnet modification you could stick the V12 out of the Q7 in there, what a beast that would be:)
 

Fisher 2007

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Apr 8, 2009
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Update -

Been to the garage, they have reiterated that they can remove the head, turbo, etc to inspect the engine further but the engine has seized and will not turn in any direction one little bit. The mechanics, including my mate, are all of the opinion that incurring the cost of doing this will not be worthwhile as ultimately trying to fix the engine is a lost cause. The garage state that the engine is so badly locked that even if it would be released they would not give me any warranty - they state that bearings etc could appear fine but once the engine is rebuilt it could fail shortly afterwards due to this. I can understand the logic at least and although I could part ex straight after the rebuild, what happens if this goes within a mile or two of leaving the garage itself

I think I'm at the point whereby is a new or recon engine, either way in order to realise some value back from this nightmare I need to get the car back on track

Recon - garage quote £4k incl VAT to remove my engine, fit recon (with 12 months warranty).

New Engine - garage quote £6k incl vat to remove, refit, 12 month warranty
 

Fisher 2007

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Apr 8, 2009
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Further update, whilst typing the above post I received a call from the 'Customer Relations Manager for the Executive Team at Seat', who basically told me they are willing to do nothing

He initially claimed that if I had taken the car directly to them they 'may' have considered good will. I explained that I was concerned it was related to the cambelt, done via an independant, so took it their initially, then after finding out this was not the case contacted Seat to see if they wanted to see it. They told me they could but it is 'highly unlikely' any goodwill would offered, they reiterated this to me over and over again.

After being told they were unable to do anything I suggested the following;

1- They let me have the parts at a reduced cost, not below their costs, just a reduced value to show willing, they wouldn't do it

2- I want another Seat, despite this I do like the cars alot, and suggested they take this car off me and give me a discount on another 'used approved Seat', thereby me showing them the commitment they want. I don't want massive amounts but something would have been nice, they said no

Now I know the car is out of warranty but this does stink. The guy was not open to anything other than to say no.

If you own a Seat please don't ever rely on Seat for customer service!
 

Paulki

Active Member
Jul 12, 2006
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Enfield
As already suggested by myself and others, talk to Consumer Advice, you do have rights even outside of the warranty period, a properly maintained engine shouldn't being going bang after only 36k!

It can't hurt to ask the question?
 
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Fisher 2007

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Apr 8, 2009
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I spoke with the office of fair trading, they state that as the car was not purchased from them I legally do not have a contract with them, therefore I have no recourse over them, despite the 'fit for purpose' bit.

If anyone else thinks I should speak with someone else please say, I'm gutted!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Justa

Active Member
Nov 24, 2007
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Derby
:(:(:(:(

don't know what to say - apart from go back to SEAT as too speak to someone higher ? Email them and ask if they think its acceptable for a car to last 36k miles ? Point them in the direction of this thread ?
 

Simes61

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Jul 23, 2011
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I spoke with the office of fair trading, they state that as the car was not purchased from them I legally do not have a contract with them, therefore I have no recourse over them, despite the 'fit for purpose' bit.

If anyone else thinks I should speak with someone else please say, I'm gutted!!!!!!!!!!!!

So essentially what I said yesterday at 0959!

Sorry for you though.
 
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