Probs after remap

[Madmalc]

Hi peeps,

I had my Leon Cupra tdi 150 remapped about a year ago but lately I'm having a problem. When I accelerate the revs seem to shoot up but the speed doesn't, it only does it fora couple of seconds, then the revs drop and the car accelerates normally again. It used to only do it once the engine was warm but it seems to be getting worse and doing it all the time now. I'm not sure if it could be one of the hose's or if its my clutch. Has anyone else had the same and what did you do? If it is a hose then would a silicone one solve the problem? If so then which one would I need to replace?

 

[MJ]

If your revs are increasing but you speed is not then your clutch is slipping. The cure is a new/uprated clutch.

 

[L8CLP]

Hi i have the same problem just had my cupra 150tdi re-mapped and clutch seems to be slipping any reccomendations for what clutch i should buy? have seen a sports clutch for around £220 & another dual mass single conversion for £400 just not sure what to buy as i only want to change it once

 

[MJ]

Top right hand corner, the box marked "SEARCH" just stick "TDI clutch" in there and you'll have your answers

 

[L8CLP]

Hi MJ thanx for that have been reading about clutched and saches are reccomended i have found 1 on ebay for £400 thinking of having paddle clutch what do you think?

Ebay Item number: 370241734041

 

[MJ]

Many people would tell you to avoid a paddle clutch set-up especially if yours is a daily driver.

 

[L8CLP]

Ok will do so do you think that kit on ebay is ok? excluding the paddle clutch?

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

i have read loads of threads ,

most people stick with the dual mass flywheel and use something like a sachs organic plate etc

also it depends what you have planned for your car , if your happy with the remap you have or if you wish to progress down the hybrid turbo route etc , then you will need a clutch to suit etc

 

[Madmalc]

See the revs go up but only by about 1k and its only for a second before they drop back and then the speed goes up as normal, thats why I thought it could be the turbo/intercooler hose collapsing because there's more pressure from the turbo since the remap? (I dont know wether someone has been feeding me bull or not about this but I thought it did kind of make sense). I want to put a new clutch in anyway so I think I'll do that first then if I still have the problem I'll look at putting silicone hose's on.
As you can probably guess I dont know an awful lot about cars, so can anyone tell me what I should be looking for? I've read about different types but it's not making much sense to me....

 

[daboy3000]

The clutch is slipping, mine does this too. Don't floor it from low revs and it should be a little better. You can still use the car without damaging it and some people drive for years with the problem. Mine comes and goes. There was a rumour about faultly clutches so could be this too. What kind of torque have you got? anything over 300lb/ft and you will start having issues. AmD will sell and fit an uprated kit for around £950 all in.

 

[Madmalc]

Just had it confirmed that it is my clutch. I had an evo remap and the guy said my car has 196BHP and over 300 torque. The guy who has just looked at it said unless I'm going to upgrade the car anymore then its not really worth spending a fortune on an upgraded clutch, not sure wether he was after a quick sale or what but I'm going to look into it a bit more and see what seems the best thing to get. I dont want to spend a fortune if I can help it, but at the same time I dont want to have the same problem 6 months later. So any suggestions anyone?

 

[muddyboots]

Basically you have two options if you want to cure the slip:
1) Uprate your clutch to one that'll cope with the peak torque
2) Have you remap modified to knock the peak torque figure back a little, in the rev-range where slip occurs, so the standard clutch can cope.

 

[Madmalc]

I think I'll get in touch with the guy who did the remap as it does smoke a little when I floor it so I think it does need a tweek, and if I can find a good clutch at an affordable price then I'll have a new one fitted too. Hopefully then it will solve all the problems.
Just been reading a thread on here and think a dual mass sounds the better option if funds will stretch that far.

 

[daboy3000]

Just been reading a thread on here and think a dual mass sounds the better option if funds will stretch that far.

Lots of vibration and noise with that i believe.

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

nah the car comes with a dual mass flywheels as standard , its when they convert back to solid single mass flywheels where they are noisy as hell


as said if driven tidy you can avoid slipping and save the cash for later ,

mine used to do it , but have learnt not to floor it below 2000 rpm

when you want to give it some stick , after 2nd gear at around 4000rpm , when you move up theyre always above 2k to carry on planting

 

[L8CLP]

i have read loads of threads ,

most people stick with the dual mass flywheel and use something like a sachs organic plate etc

also it depends what you have planned for your car , if your happy with the remap you have or if you wish to progress down the hybrid turbo route etc , then you will need a clutch to suit etc

Hi i dont have anything else planned my clutch was near the top before my re-map around 3 weeks ago what caused the slipping and killed my clutch was last weekend had a full car and floored it seems to have decreased the life anyway think i'm going for a LUK clutch prices i have so far

ALL LUK
2 piece clutch kit 84.50 + vat
Slave cillender £29.50 + vat
Dual mass fltwheel £195 + vat = 309 + vat = 363.07

Can get fitted for £145 total = 508.07

Hoping to have done in around 4 weeks time will let you no how i get on

 

[skullmunki]

Hi i dont have anything else planned my clutch was near the top before my re-map around 3 weeks ago what caused the slipping and killed my clutch was last weekend had a full car and floored it seems to have decreased the life anyway think i'm going for a LUK clutch prices i have so far

ALL LUK
2 piece clutch kit 84.50 + vat
Slave cillender £29.50 + vat
Dual mass fltwheel £195 + vat = 309 + vat = 363.07

Can get fitted for £145 total = 508.07

Hoping to have done in around 4 weeks time will let you no how i get on

Is that a standard clutch (if not its bloody cheap for an uprated one)?

You're taking a pretty big gamble if your going to put a brand new std clutch and flywheel into a remapped car.

 

[mihaib]

After my clutch started slipping on my PD150(3 weeks after remap) I replaced it with an OE clutch(plate&cover) and it's held up pretty good until now showing no signs of letting go,even if I drove the car pretty hard at times(did a few hillclimbs in it).Given that both plate and cover were EXCHANGE parts,they were VERY cheap(about 70 EUR both) and you can get them at any VAG dealer,so I figured if I changed the clutch each year,it would take about 10 years to reach the price of a SACHS uprated one and I have yet to replace the first one 20000kms and 18 months laterHowever,my list of engine modifications is very short(remap and exhaust) but for this level it seems that a new OE clutch is more than up to the job.

 

[skullmunki]

After my clutch started slipping on my PD150(3 weeks after remap) I replaced it with an OE clutch(plate&cover) and it's held up pretty good until now showing no signs of letting go,even if I drove the car pretty hard at times(did a few hillclimbs in it).Given that both plate and cover were EXCHANGE parts,they were VERY cheap(about 70 EUR both) and you can get them at any VAG dealer,so I figured if I changed the clutch each year,it would take about 10 years to reach the price of a SACHS uprated one and I have yet to replace the first one 20000kms and 18 months laterHowever,my list of engine modifications is very short(remap and exhaust) but for this level it seems that a new OE clutch is more than up to the job.

All well and good if you have your own garage and the know-how to do it yourself, but paying AT LEAST £100 for someone else to do it annually for the next ten years?

 

[L8CLP]

Is that a standard clutch (if not its bloody cheap for an uprated one)?

You're taking a pretty big gamble if your going to put a brand new std clutch and flywheel into a remapped car.

Hi yes standard cluth with dual mass flywheel i have read on this forum that LUK are good clutch's called a guy today regarding the £400 dual mass sachs clutch on ebay told him my torque and he quoted me £610 & £1060 for a performance clutch i would pay the £610 if i was looking to do more in ways of bhp or torque but if this clutch lasts me 2 years i will be happy if not will just change the clutch and not the flywheel next time

also i think my clutch has been on the way before i had the re-map clutch peddle was close to the top, the re-map has ended the life of my clutch the guy who re-mapped said to me do you have plans for a clutch and i said yes as it was on it's way