Related fault codes?

[LeylandVCDS]

Wondering if anyone could offer any suggestions how to stop this recurrent fault code from appearing on scans.

The fault codes seem to be related, and always seem to appear together, never separately.

So, the car has a retrofitted highline reverse camera fitted, all works well except that there is a permanent error, unrelated to this enquiry, about the system being uncalibrated
131689 Rear view Camera System Control Module No communication - Timeout Knoten 0x69/6C Steuergerat fur Ruckfahrkamerasystem - Basic calibration not carried out
I understand this as yes, the camera system has NOT be officially calibrated

Car is a 2019 facelift Leon SE Dynamic, and has a factory fit MIB2 navigation unit. Navigation database is version 2310, downloaded from VW portal onto a genuine SEAT SD card and never shows any problems in use.

Issues are these - if the ignition is switched off, and then switched on again in a short time, there is an error message appearing on the screen that the Park Pilot is currently unavailable (though everything works as it should) . This seems to throw up a related error on VCDS in 5F Information electrics that the navigation database is not enabled:
2571 Navigation System B126C F2 00001000 Navigation database not enabled

Is this in any way related to the uncalibrated reverse camera, and how might this relate to the park pilot unavailable message

As said, everything is working exactly as it should be.

Any ideas how to get rid of these errors? Thank you

 

[Craig.]

Have you got the reverse camera on a permanent power feed or ignition fed?

Ignoring the calibration fault, they are not related to each other. They are being triggered at different times and you had the RVC fault way more times than the database one.

 

[LeylandVCDS]

Reverse camera is ignition fed, and genuine VAG parts. I suspected the camera calibration fault wasn't in the frame, but it seems significant that the park pilot error message on screen always accompanies the navigation database not enabled error, and the park pilot error only started AFTER the camera was installed - or is it since a navigation database update was done???) All database updates have been done through the genuine VW portal, nothing aftermarket.
If the ignition isn't switched on a short time after switching it off, the navigation database error never crops up, even days or weeks apart, but if the errors are cleared, and the ignition is rapidly cycled, then wrror will be there immediately on switching the ignition back on.
There's definately some relation between the park pilot and navigation database error codes

 

[cairus]

I can't find any message for the basic settings in the pictures?

 

[LeylandVCDS]

I can't find any message for the basic settings in the pictures?

Those are just the screenshots for 5F and 19 - Reverse camera 6C has a permanent error saying basic settings not been carried out. I'll plug in again and get a screenshot of this when I can

EDIT; from an old scan
Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772) Labels:| 5Q0-980-556.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556 B HW: 4M0 980 556 A
Component: RVC Compact H18 0231
Dataset Number: 3VD525D____ 0003
Coding: 04840101A600201F000040
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 006009
ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB.rod
VCID: 392F3FC689D5E682889-806C

1 Fault Found:
10489856 - No Basic Setting
B2010 00 [00001001] - -
[RearView system not calibrated]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 169
Mileage: 51564 km
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:00

 

[cairus]

I wonder why the gateway says there is no connection

 

[Craig.]

Reverse camera is ignition fed, and genuine VAG parts. I suspected the camera calibration fault wasn't in the frame, but it seems significant that the park pilot error message on screen always accompanies the navigation database not enabled error, and the park pilot error only started AFTER the camera was installed - or is it since a navigation database update was done???) All database updates have been done through the genuine VW portal, nothing aftermarket.
If the ignition isn't switched on a short time after switching it off, the navigation database error never crops up, even days or weeks apart, but if the errors are cleared, and the ignition is rapidly cycled, then wrror will be there immediately on switching the ignition back on.
There's definately some relation between the park pilot and navigation database error codes

The reverse camera should be wired to T30, not T15, that's where the issues are coming from with the ignition cycle and RVC communication fault codes. The gateway can't talk to a dead module lol.

You may get Park Pilot errors with the erroneous power activity for the camera as the 5F unit talks to the 6C module as part of the Park Pilot system when it's present. Don't forget, the Leon never came with a highline camera so I'd check all the coding and adaptations are correct for it.

 

[LeylandVCDS]

I wonder why the gateway says there is no connection

Especially as everything works perfectly - maybe a timout error which immediately clears?

 

[Craig.]

I wonder why the gateway says there is no connection

Because there is no connection when ignition is off, camera is wired to T15 instead of T30 and Gateway expects comms with ignition off.

This is why RT ask for full autoscans to be posted, snippets only show half the story

 

[cairus]

I had the parking pilot error too, it was due to the battery which dropped too much when starting

 

[Craig.]

I had the parking pilot error too, it was due to the battery which dropped too much when starting

Lack of power causes all sorts of issues, either when power drops out by accident or modules are wired incorrectly by design.

 

[LeylandVCDS]

I had the parking pilot error too, it was due to the battery which dropped too much when starting

It has a brand new AGM battery, properly coded, and it happened with the old EFB battery too

 

[LeylandVCDS]

OK thanks, that explains the park pilot error, any ideas about the navigation database not enabled error that crops up at the same time as the park pilot?

 

[cairus]

It has a brand new AGM battery, properly coded, and it happened with the old EFB battery too

This has nothing to do with a new or old battery. Measure the voltage during the start-up process.

 

[LeylandVCDS]

This has nothing to do with a new or old battery. Measure the voltage during the start-up process.

12.7 volts

 

[Craig.]

12.7 volts

I think he means whilst cranking

 

[cairus]

You measured at the front of the battery, during the start-up process where terminal X becomes active, and you got 12.7V?

 

[LeylandVCDS]

Whilst cranking, 9.78 volts