Seat ibiza FR 1.2 tsi question good engine?
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Check if you have a button next to the cig.lighter, should be a A with a circle around it. That one is used to turn the start stop function off.
I think it's now pretty clear.
The new 1.2 tsi doesn't have stop start, so either:
1. The claimed mpg and CO2 figures are wrong
or
2. They have done something to the engine or transmission to make the figures better.
or
3. They did a retest with a better production sample.
The new 1.2 tsi doesn't have stop start, so either:
1. The claimed mpg and CO2 figures are wrong
or
2. They have done something to the engine or transmission to make the figures better.
or
3. They did a retest with a better production sample.
im pretty sure the new fr doesnt have stop start.
I ordered one hopefully coming next week so i will confirm then.
But the one i test drove didnt, im sure i would of noticed if it did.
it doesnt mention anywhere in the catolog , and im sure it would if it does because
its a selling point!
I ordered one hopefully coming next week so i will confirm then.
But the one i test drove didnt, im sure i would of noticed if it did.
it doesnt mention anywhere in the catolog , and im sure it would if it does because
its a selling point!
I'm pretty sure its advertised as having stop/ start? What other Ibizas have it, just the 1.2 TDI?
EDIT: Checked the brochure its only fitted to the 1.2 TDI CR 75PS Ecomotive (S A/C and SE) SC | 5dr | ST
Quite impressed they've got the little TSI at 119g/ km without stop/ start, this means its the most efficient VAG car with this engine fitted.
EDIT: Checked the brochure its only fitted to the 1.2 TDI CR 75PS Ecomotive (S A/C and SE) SC | 5dr | ST
Quite impressed they've got the little TSI at 119g/ km without stop/ start, this means its the most efficient VAG car with this engine fitted.
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ian-mac
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Thought I would pitch in..
Was down at my local dealer today for a look around and was shown an facelift FR, which seams to have replaced the sport. Anyway I took a Boucher home with me and sure enough on the engine information pages, the only car that comes with the start stop is the 1.2 TDI CR 75PS Ecomotive, the 92 g/km CO2 one. The other diesels and all the patrols don't have it :-(
It's such a shame that Seat have not included this, all the new VeeDubs have it..even my bros 3.0 TDI Touareg!! Perhaps it's something that can be activated via VagCom tho? It's prob controlled by the engine Managment I would imagine?
Was down at my local dealer today for a look around and was shown an facelift FR, which seams to have replaced the sport. Anyway I took a Boucher home with me and sure enough on the engine information pages, the only car that comes with the start stop is the 1.2 TDI CR 75PS Ecomotive, the 92 g/km CO2 one. The other diesels and all the patrols don't have it :-(
It's such a shame that Seat have not included this, all the new VeeDubs have it..even my bros 3.0 TDI Touareg!! Perhaps it's something that can be activated via VagCom tho? It's prob controlled by the engine Managment I would imagine?
And if they're like any other dealer will give you a blank expression followed by a nervous glance, a slight bit of perspiration and then waffle some nonsense chucking in a spattering of eco buzzwords whilst glaring at you like a rabbit in headlights waiting for that look from you that says "you have talked sufficient bullshit for me to be no longer interested in what you are saying, you may now stop"
ha it is funny to watch them skirm though!
on a side note - is it normal to sign your finance documents
before you actually get the car? im guessing il be getting it weekend
but he wants me to sign the finance stuff tonight.
Ive already signed some stuff about how much car is worth etc..
when ordered it but nothing to do with the pcp deal .
on a side note - is it normal to sign your finance documents
before you actually get the car? im guessing il be getting it weekend
but he wants me to sign the finance stuff tonight.
Ive already signed some stuff about how much car is worth etc..
when ordered it but nothing to do with the pcp deal .
ian-mac
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Haha too rite mate! Usually they just stare blankly at you for a few moments, then scurry off to the brochure, come back and give a 37 minute explanation as to why it isn't included, but isn't an important feature and how you can do without it until you move the conversation on!
On another note..anyone know if this engine now falls into the lower road tax band (i.e the £55 one)..I'm assuming it dose based on the lower emissions but I have no idea how the bands work. Also checked out today how much more it would be to insure if I upgrade, and amazingly 105BHP 1.2 is £21 cheaper per year than the 1.4 85BHP sport that I currently have..wonderful how insurance companies work isn't it!
Unfortunately not, there is physically a stop/start module fitted to the car for it to work. Found it in the A1 the other day under the rear seats but not sure where it would live in the Ibiza.
You don't need it though, the point of the system is to reduce co2/ improve mpg but given they've got it to such good levels without it would be left redundant.
ian-mac
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Actually..your completely right! No need for it what so ever when the car already falls in the £30 road tax category and has good MPG.
Interesting tho that it's an actual physical part added to the car
Under the front passenger seat. That's why you can't fit the storage box there.
There is also a DC-DC converter that maintains correct voltage to everything, a modified starter motor, a uprated alternator, a special battery, several extra sensors, indicator on instruments, on-off switch etc. etc.
Certainly not just a software change!!!!!
One thing I noticed with my 1.2 TSI ecomotice is that I just need to turn the key quickly to start it, I don't need to hold it untill the car has started and then release it. (like mk GF's 1.4 85Hp Mk5 Ibza)
Not sure this is at all a unique to the models that has Start/stop, but its pretty nice, and easy to get used to.
One thing I do wonder thought with start/stop is how if affects the turbocharger in the car, I mean, I always learned to leave the car for 10 secods or so idle before shutting it off so the turbo cools down.
Not sure this is at all a unique to the models that has Start/stop, but its pretty nice, and easy to get used to.
One thing I do wonder thought with start/stop is how if affects the turbocharger in the car, I mean, I always learned to leave the car for 10 secods or so idle before shutting it off so the turbo cools down.
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