Seat leon fr

[crimelol]

Hello there guys,

I'm aware that this is SEAT Forum so probably the comments are going to be lean towards the LEON but please guys be transparent and as much real as you can.

Well here is the thing im looking to buy SECOND HAND Car for around 15k from Germany, i live in Macedonia so i will be driving the car here. im looking to buy a Diesel since i drive 20k KM per year and max 150k KM, the car has to have max 2.0 cm3 and @ least 184hp or 0-100 7.5.

What bothers me is that there are other cars like the bmw for example the golf GTD which is really awesome looking car also, performance wise very good, comfortable, it handles good, its good cruiser and good all rounder car. Also im looking for the audi a3 sline 184hp and the seat leon FR 184hp. The VW group cars share the same MQB Platform and more or less they are the same car as i read reviews and as i drove them. All 4 cars seem to be comfort and drive nice ( 17 inch wheels all of them ). Also all cars have the Mode selection thingy.

So im looking forward to buy a car which will be the best out of theese 4, in terms of. Driving and Performance, Handling , Comfort, Re sell value, Running costs and reliability. it doesnt matter for me if it is Auto Gear box or manual tho i pref the manual (cheaper to maintain).

So thing is the BMW is the most expensive and the VW GTD both are around 16k, then there is the A3 which is around 14 - 15 k and then there is the Leon which is 11 - 12 k.

Which one should i go for ??? i only want car that has the most equipment on. and i will be driving the car in bad roads.

Pls Help me.

 

[Aardvark]

I own a 184 FR TDI leon

I am driving an A3 sline 2.0L DSG for work

I have just handed back a BMW320 ED business model

No contest BMW 320 ED on 16 inch wheels averaged 78 mpg over the 78,000 miles and regularly did 90 + mpg on motorways.

Pros- MPG. reliability, lack of rattles, good on crap roads, solid and reliable

Cons- uncomfortable seats, no lumbar support, no sat nav

Build quality even on the business basic model was much better than the Audi or the Leon.

Audi A3 s line 2.0L tdi DSG

Nice car to drive, DSG gearbox not as smooth as manual or a full auto but relaxing on work driving. Best I can do is 68mpg and running at 55mpg liftime so far. Suspension hard as nails and prone to torque steer and wheel hop, can't get the power down in some situations and the traction control will cut in an rob your of power just when you need to make a swift exit at road junction. Not as solid as the BMW but more solid than the Leon. at just 7k miles a few squeaks are happening on the centre console and inside trim.

Leon FR nice to drive and more forgiving on bad roads than the A3. Gearbox a bit clunky compared with the BMW which was slick. MPG about the same as the A3 but I can get 75mpg on a motorway where the Audi is top at 68 mpg. Now done 36k miles and starting to get rattles in door cards and squeaking on front and rear suspension bushes. The seats are far more comfortable than the BMW and on a par with the more expensive S line leather trimmed seat in the A3.