So I was looking to spank some money...

lucifer666

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Just for a quick one, did a quote for an FR, turns out the Cupra is the cheapest of the three to insure bizarrely. On another note, had a quick scan of the forums for potential problems, can anyone clear up the muddy water around the whole fuel pump/injectors/ fuel starvation problem after a remap?? Or is this a general problem that Seat have had? A little worrisome from the reliability standpoint...

Squirrel.

Have alook at my threads on misfiring. It is solved. You need a different set of plugs ngk brk7eix. With seats new software and injectors which have been around for almost a year now then your fine.
 

Tonezz

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I'v got a TSI FR and my insurance this year is about £672 for the year. 3 Years driving and NCB and I'm 23.
 

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so you also know more astra diesels have had insurance claims than ferrari daytona's.. so the astra costs more to insure?

No.

saying more bocs were sold and therefore more have crashed so thats why they cost more doesnt add up statistically.

However, if you are saying the boc has a higher claim rate car for car, (IE using statistics correctly) then fair enough. But this isnt what you said.

It goes on percentage cost; percentage on the road with relation to the amount built.

Therefore on his logic he is correct because more Astra diesels are on the road compared too a Ferrari Daytona therefore they are more likely to be involved with an accident etc.

Stop being an arse about it!
 
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Re the original questions Mechanical differences. The Fr has a different exhaust(id say freeer flowing, two less bends in it) than the Cupra.

FR= 1.4TSI tuned to 150bhp
Cupra/Boc= 1.4 TSI tuned to 180bhp.

Insurance, Cupra cheapest for me, FR and Boc more expensive.

re, TSI issues I would say they are all but solved for majority of cars. Any issues can be rectified by seat warranty now.

Jay
 

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It goes on percentage cost; percentage on the road with relation to the amount built.

Therefore on his logic he is correct because more Astra diesels are on the road compared too a Ferrari Daytona therefore they are more likely to be involved with an accident etc.

Stop being an arse about it!

so on your logic the Astra is more likely to be invovled in an accident than the Ferrari and therefore the astra is more expensive to insure than the Ferrari? clearly no.

I agree 'an' Astra is more likely to be involved in an accident than a Ferrari, but thats down to numbers on the road, mileage covered, typcial use etc not on an individual car by car basis.
If you were to use an astra or Ferrari for exactly the same use every day then i cant imagine the Astra would be more to insure.

An insurance company is insuring 1 astra, not all of them. Insurance is heavily statistically based, not perfectly done, however if 100 red astras are sold and 10 crash, and 200 yellow astras are sold and 20 crash they are not going to say if you have a yellow astra you are more likely to crash. As you say companies can apply simple %s into their statistics.
 
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wezzel98765

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Re the original questions Mechanical differences. The Fr has a different exhaust(id say freeer flowing, two less bends in it) than the Cupra.

FR= 1.4TSI tuned to 150bhp
Cupra/Boc= 1.4 TSI tuned to 180bhp.

Insurance, Cupra cheapest for me, FR and Boc more expensive.

re, TSI issues I would say they are all but solved for majority of cars. Any issues can be rectified by seat warranty now.

Jay

So, theoretically a remapped FR vs a remapped Cupra means the FR would be quicker :O?
 

secret.squirrel

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Dunno mate, all I know is they both are the same when stage1 or 2

From what I can gather it's the map (and the exhaust path) that is different, and due to the exhaust having less bends on the FR model, the engine should breathe a little free'er, so although on paper with a Stage 1 remap they are identical, the real world difference should mean a little more responsiveness from the FR. In theory.

Squirrel.
 
Aug 3, 2011
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In theory true, but I duno how much of a difference you would notice. I dont mind losing 0.4bhp for my trapezoidal exit. I think the FR sounds more raspy with the twin exit, mates got one where as the Cupra burbles a bit more. Surprised no one had thought about it before, because they are two tightish turns in the cupras zorst set up to get it in the middle.

Jay
 
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