When you rolled that 300 lb/ft, was it a cold day? I think Brett's would be a bit higher than that tbh if he stuck it on there now especially with a stage one map.
Not sure what other mods he is running though.
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When you rolled that 300 lb/ft, was it a cold day? I think Brett's would be a bit higher than that tbh if he stuck it on there now especially with a stage one map.
Not sure what other mods he is running though.
It was April/May time so not overly cold. The car makes near enough that figure every time I roll there, you can certainly feel it on the road 
It was April/May time so not overly cold. The car makes near enough that figure every time I roll there, you can certainly feel it on the road
Nice one.. Yeah I bet you can. I certainly could tonight! Took it on a dual carriageway on the way home and oh lordy, 3rd and 4th gear kicking you back in your seat that much is amazing
On another note mate, am I right thinking I should have uprated my 007p spring to a green one? It has been on the car for nearly a year running what must be yellow stock spring.
This might be causing my fault code.
Here are the fault codes vag-com showed up earlier tonight:
2 Faults Found:
17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)
P1297 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17545 - Fuel Trim: Bank 1 (Add): System too Rich
P1137 - 35-00 - -
Readiness: 0000 0000
Can anyone help and shed some light on this? If it is the spring needing uprating in the 007P DV then I will be a bit embarrassed!!
Cheers in advance.
2 Faults Found:
17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)
P1297 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17545 - Fuel Trim: Bank 1 (Add): System too Rich
P1137 - 35-00 - -
Readiness: 0000 0000
Can anyone help and shed some light on this? If it is the spring needing uprating in the 007P DV then I will be a bit embarrassed!!
Cheers in advance.
its not the spring, if the spring was weak and it was dumping, it would be doing this back into the TIP, this error is usually associated with a leak where the charge air is being lost into the atmosphere.
Oh ok.. Where should I be checking for leaks with that code? I can't believe there is a boost leak there someone with the way it is driving. Makes me wonder if a sensor is playing up and confusing itself somewhere..
don't worry about the springs Tom as if the truth be known when the dv is plumbed the correct way around, boost is acting on the side of the piston and the spring tension has no effect on its ability to hold boost. If you connect it the wrong way around its possible that spring tensions matter but since the nipple is equalised by the same boost level its unlikely that spring tension will matter even in this scenario.
That fault code either means a boost leak or your DV needs a little maintenance.
I've been running a 3 inch tip for years now and it makes a big difference..... but i log reguarly as from experience peak boost can rise with the 3inch Tip (on a hybrid at least not least beacuse we run stiffer actuator springs) and i just want to check that you guys are staying within the range of the map sensor to avoid torque spikes that can be detrimental to stock rods. Peak unsustained torque measurements should be treated as the enemy but from what i've seen on the AMD RR plots, the torque graphs look very good.
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Forget any negativity regarding RR results your cars are doing the business but i'd like to see the data (logs) out of interest for boost etc as logs of stock k04 turbo's running 3 inch tips etc are thin on the ground.
I had that code when my 007p was sticking open, do the push/finger test to make sure it stays open when its' meant to and shuts when it's meant to as well. Not calling you a liar Robbie just speaking from experience! In all likelihood it probably is a boost leak but the valve is the easiest thing to test, so sods law if you do a full charge circuit pressure test first then it'll turn out to have been a boost leak all along.
Also worth cleaning and resetting your throttle body, you'll need full VAGCOM or VCDS-lite to do the reset. There was a thread in mk1 Leon section where someone cured that code with this just the last couple of days.
Having said all that though, if the pressure drop code and the too-rich code have shown up at (almost) the same time then it does sound like a boost leak. Clear the codes (if you can with the shareware VCDS), go for a blast then scan again.
Also worth cleaning and resetting your throttle body, you'll need full VAGCOM or VCDS-lite to do the reset. There was a thread in mk1 Leon section where someone cured that code with this just the last couple of days.
Having said all that though, if the pressure drop code and the too-rich code have shown up at (almost) the same time then it does sound like a boost leak. Clear the codes (if you can with the shareware VCDS), go for a blast then scan again.
LOL 8bit, i said "usually". Here anyone running a 1.8t should have one along with vagcom.Best mods ever http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=269836&highlight=DIY+boost
Also if and when you get vagcom you can check your long term fuel trims, this can point to leaks too.
Also if and when you get vagcom you can check your long term fuel trims, this can point to leaks too.
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don't worry about the springs Tom as if the truth be known when the dv is plumbed the correct way around, boost is acting on the side of the piston and the spring tension has no effect on its ability to hold boost. If you connect it the wrong way around its possible that spring tensions matter but since the nipple is equalised by the same boost level its unlikely that spring tension will matter even in this scenario.
That fault code either means a boost leak or your DV needs a little maintenance.
I've been running a 3 inch tip for years now and it makes a big difference..... but i log reguarly as from experience peak boost can rise with the 3inch Tip (on a hybrid at least not least beacuse we run stiffer actuator springs) and i just want to check that you guys are staying within the range of the map sensor to avoid torque spikes that can be detrimental to stock rods. Peak unsustained torque measurements should be treated as the enemy but from what i've seen on the AMD RR plots, the torque graphs look very good.
Forget any negativity regarding RR results your cars are doing the business but i'd like to see the data (logs) out of interest for boost etc as logs of stock k04 turbo's running 3 inch tips etc are thin on the ground.
I'm thinking it'll be a boost leak tbh. The DV seems ok, but then again best to check it and take it apart. I do think I should uprate the spring though to green running this much more boost on full chat now. My boost gauge isn't in yet so I'm not sure what psi I'm making.
How much difference did the 3" TIP make out of interest mate? What would you say roughly?
Coops10's peak boost held better than mine I think that's where the biggest difference was, and it wasn't my fmic so it's gotta be this TIP surely!
Yeah the graph is impressive to be honest and the car doesn't feel like it's spiking too hard and doing any damage. I wanted it to be pretty smooth and it is
Should I get the map tweaked to suit the 3" TIP when that goes on or will it adapt ok itself on stock K04 do you think?I ignore stupid comments about the rollers tbh, the car feels a million times better and I just want to see gains to see the car is improving with each performance mod. Ok I can aim for 300 on the same rollers and if I get there I know I've been putting the right parts on whether it be a truthful 300 or not, I think it would blow quite a few cars away at the moment I can think of near me like a mapped stage 1 astra vxr close by. Been in that and it feels slower than mine for sure.
Regarding logs, I will request these next time I'm down AmD and on the rollers. I don't have vagcom myself but would love to log it for you guys to compare 3" TIP on standard K04 vs Hybrid etc. I will get as much as I can for you when I can dude.
Yeah I'm going to start with checking the valve over and making sure that's not sticking, and also do the push/finger test.
Shame I didn't see this before I went to my mates last night as he has full vagcom and could have done a TB reset. Oh well.. I'm going to show AmD these faults in 2 weeks if I can't find the problem by then and see if they want to have a look. I think the light will come back on by then tbh..
My mate cleared the codes last night so the light is gone for now but as just said I think it'll come back and he said don't be surprised. We checked for obvious leaks with engine running but couldn't hear anything like air escaping out which sometimes you can hear when a vac pipe etc pops off.
I did go for a 25min blast, and I mean BLAST last night taking it onto a dual carriageway and back again over a few runs, seemed to pull really hard and didn't drop off mid to top end which is making me think this is going to be a swine to find..
Still, if after the 3" TIP goes on, it makes near 300bhp I'll forget it for the time being
. It's a weekend car now anyway so not ultra urgent..Man I need one of these boost leak DIY testers! Very handy. Just watched the video attached to hotside upper boost hose. Good stuff. Think I'll have to go through this one weekend and make one up
If it helps at all Tom, im running the stiffer yellow spring in my DV. Green is the standard one.
According to the Forge website:
Valve Spring color coding
Green - 5-15 PSI
Yellow - 15-23 PSI
Blue - 23-30 PSI
Red - 30 + PSI
Source: http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMDVTUN
I bought the spring tuning kit for the 007P. My valve had the green one fitted so took that out and fitted the yellow one.
I sometimes see boost of about 25psi so maybe I should upgrade to blue spring or fit a spacer with the yellow spring
Valve Spring color coding
Green - 5-15 PSI
Yellow - 15-23 PSI
Blue - 23-30 PSI
Red - 30 + PSI
Source: http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMDVTUN
I bought the spring tuning kit for the 007P. My valve had the green one fitted so took that out and fitted the yellow one.
I sometimes see boost of about 25psi so maybe I should upgrade to blue spring or fit a spacer with the yellow spring
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Honestly t0m green or yellow will do, i put back in my green spring and its fine with 1.6bar boost at redline.
Lol Bill I was only thinking about 30+ psi too much
In terms of the breather hoses etc yes, not uprated any of those and pcv etc. Only one's currently uprated are TIP and intercooler hoses, though the upper boost one's are still standard. But will be replaced soon along with 3" TIP.
I need to go on the Forge site and get buying... I imagine alot of the standard stuff will go soon due to higher boost..
http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?cat=190202&catalog=190202SILH&inc=product
Nice one cheers for info Robbie.
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