What type of immobiliser is fitted ?

halftone

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Insurance want me to complete an immobiliser declaration form. Apparently it needs to be a Tatcham Category 2. There is a box to say if it was fitted at the time of manufacturer, am I ok just ticking that ?

Its the 1.4 Sport model.

Cheers,

Tony
 

ettlz

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It's an "ECU-simply-doesn't-inject-fuel-or-fire-spark-plugs-until-an-authorised-key-is-in-the-slot" type of engine immobiliser.

You ever heard of modern cars being hot-wired? I hear it's extraordinarily hard --- nigh on impossible, you have to circumvent part of the ECU soft-logic --- with computer controlled engines. That's why thieves steal the keys these days.
 
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m0rk

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that's just dumb then - the insurance rating of the car already 'says' it has a T2 on it as manufacturers spec
 

halftone

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It's an "ECU-simply-doesn't-inject-fuel-or-fire-spark-plugs-until-an-authorised-key-is-in-the-slot" type of engine immobiliser.

You ever heard of modern cars being hot-wired? I hear it's extraordinarily hard --- nigh on impossible, you have to circumvent part of the ECU soft-logic --- with computer controlled engines. That's why thieves steal the keys these days.

Thanks for that completely useless reply. Try reading the post before making your sarcastic replies, it stops you looking a fool.

I just re-read my first post, i thought this part was pretty clear ...

Insurance want me to complete an immobiliser declaration form. Apparently it needs to be a Tatcham Category 2

Telling my insurance i dont have one WILL affect my policy, it will void it.
 

ross p

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that's just dumb then - the insurance rating of the car already 'says' it has a T2 on it as manufacturers spec

im not bothering - its making it cheaper for me:D

Thanks for that completely useless reply. Try reading the post before making your sarcastic replies, it stops you looking a fool.

I just re-read my first post, i thought this part was pretty clear ...

yes it wil be fine to just tick the box and say you have one
 

mixupz

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So what is the deadlock thing then? when you press lock twice? is that the Thatcham 2 thing you were on about? Excuse my ignorance im not really sure about this and if it would mean i can get cheaper insurance to delcare my car has something i'd be very happy!
 

jtonline

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How do I know if there is an alarm fitted, is there an easy way of finding out ?

Hmm., not sure. I think if you exit the car and lock it; then unlock the driver's door with the key and open the door, you have 15 seconds to turn on the ignition with the key. If you fail to turn on the ignition within that time the alarm will sound.

Perhaps someone with the SEAT alarm on a Mk4 Ibiza could check that, or come up with another easy test that doesn't involve breaking into the car :confused:

So what is the deadlock thing then? when you press lock twice? is that the Thatcham 2 thing you were on about? Excuse my ignorance im not really sure about this and if it would mean i can get cheaper insurance to delcare my car has something i'd be very happy!

The deadlocks are part of the central door locking system. On a Mk4 Ibiza if you press the remote button or turn the door key once, the deadlocks activate which just means that the doors cannot be unlocked and opened from inside the vehicle. If you press the remote button or turn the door key twice in less than 1 second, the doors will lock but the deadlocks will not have been activated which means you can unlock and open the doors from inside.

The deadlocks do not form part of Thatcham categories though.

The immobiliser stops the engine from starting unless the correct key is inserted in the ignition. The immobiliser sets itself once the key is removed and is a CAT 2 security device.

Insurance categories are worked out with what the cars have as standard security devices in mind. You should only need to advise your insurers if you have had any security devices added that were either on the factory options list or were fitted later. Depending on the devices it may or may not alter your insurance premiums.

Hope this helps.
 
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fat andy

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Hmm., not sure. I think if you exit the car and lock it; then unlock the driver's door with the key and open the door, you have 15 seconds to turn on the ignition with the key. If you fail to turn on the ignition within that time the alarm will sound.

Thats what mine does,also theres a little button down the right hand side of the drivers footwell to switch the alarm on and off
 
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Thats what mine does,also theres a little button down the right hand side of the drivers footwell to switch the alarm on and off

The older Mk4's had the button - it's not fitted to the newer ones - you simply press the lock button twice to dis-engage double locking and turn off volumetric sensors.
 
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