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Devonmikeyboy, why, in your opinion, is it pointless to change FMIC?
 
Aug 1, 2005
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Cullompton . Devon
Do you have dynocurves that would show amount of torque too??

It was running at about 340 lb torque which was enough for a FWD car. I did have the dyno curve saved on my computer but it got lost when it decided to crash and i cannot find the the paper copy.

Devonmikeyboy, why, in your opinion, is it pointless to change FMIC?

The stock PD160 FMIC is huge ( bigger then the Golf PD150 ) and can cool and flow enough air for 300 bhp easily.

the stock seat sport one (160PD) is larger and some people saw it flows air better

You pissed mate or is English your second language as well. :drunk:
 

pine

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Sep 30, 2005
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Was the turbo built on the stock exhaust housing with stock exhaust turbine? Do you know, and/or is it a secret? Did you have an exhaust temperature or pressure gauge nad if so, what kind of readings?


I have pd130, which has custom software, cupra fmic and intake, and 2,5" cat back. Otherwise stock engine. It has been dynoed to 194hp/486nm(about 358lbs/ft, with stock sotfware about 155/380nm, weather 25C). Pressures peak around 1,7, but constant is 1,6. With the stock turbo the torque curve is not healthy, peak at 2000rpm, and goes down quickly. Next projects are on the way..
During the winter a bigger turbo will be made, using parts from GT20/vnt, MB 320cdi and BMW530d turbos (a specialist with 20 years experience and secrets on turbos..). Turbo is beeing made with few things in mind: spooling up around 2000 prm, good flow at high rpm -> which would also keep the high rpm exhaust temps and pressures low (hopefully pressure will stay same or maybe lower than manifold pressures). And plan to get a power range. We have in mind also that if I upgrade my injectors, the turbo should still 'get along' with more power.. Exhaust manifold will be separate, not the stock unit and nww donwpipe will also be made.

My software maker complimented the cupra fmic too. It is very efficient.
 
Aug 1, 2005
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Cullompton . Devon
Was the turbo built on the stock exhaust housing with stock exhaust turbine? Do you know, and/or is it a secret? Did you have an exhaust temperature or pressure gauge nad if so, what kind of readings?


I have pd130, which has custom software, cupra fmic and intake, and 2,5" cat back. Otherwise stock engine. It has been dynoed to 194hp/486nm(about 358lbs/ft, with stock sotfware about 155/380nm, weather 25C). Pressures peak around 1,7, but constant is 1,6. With the stock turbo the torque curve is not healthy, peak at 2000rpm, and goes down quickly. Next projects are on the way..
During the winter a bigger turbo will be made, using parts from GT20/vnt, MB 320cdi and BMW530d turbos (a specialist with 20 years experience and secrets on turbos..). Turbo is beeing made with few things in mind: spooling up around 2000 prm, good flow at high rpm -> which would also keep the high rpm exhaust temps and pressures low (hopefully pressure will stay same or maybe lower than manifold pressures). And plan to get a power range. We have in mind also that if I upgrade my injectors, the turbo should still 'get along' with more power.. Exhaust manifold will be separate, not the stock unit and nww donwpipe will also be made.

My software maker complimented the cupra fmic too. It is very efficient.

If you want a hybrid turbo why don`t you just buy one of these;

http://www.allardmotorcompany.com/p...-seat-skoda-anc-vnc-garrett-turbochargers.asp

Or the turbodynamics stage 2 MD 376 turbo is ment to be very good up to about 250-260bhp with uprated injectors. Both of the above turbos are provern products made by large named turbo manufactures with warrenty if they go bang and take your engine with them and had thousands spent in devlopment.
Hope you get your new turbo soon as your standard PD130 KKK turbo will not last long pushing 195 bhp, torque figure seems very high for 195bhp probably more like 300lb but as long as your happy with it thats the main thing.
 

pine

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Sep 30, 2005
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Can you ever be happy with your power... :D The torque has been tested on two different dynos, and results were within 20Nm, so it should be there.
We don't have allards or others here (or anyone to sell their products), so it's better (easier at least) to use local specialists. The specialists making my turbo made the hybridturbo for my old car too (opel 2.0DI 82/185nm->133hp/320nm, driven hard after for 100tkm without problems), and has made turbos for drag-,truck,-. all kind of racing cars.
Your right that the 194hp and that torque is not good for the stock turbo. Just couldn't get everything done at the same time..And it was very tempting to see how much you we could squeeze out of the setup. ;)
I'm keeping my foot relatively light, 'cause this set up is not meant to be abused for long period of time. But it's not the power that will brake your car, it's 'that something' between the drivers seat and the steering wheel..). But the next version will be used.. [B)]
 
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