DPJ's GTRS Eliminator Install and Development

[DPJ]

I managed to get all the fluid lines connected up.

Still to do:
Fill fluids
Fit injectors
refit ecu.

I'm a bit wet and demoralised though - the induction side doesn't quite fit with the turbo in place.

The red hose that connects to the compressor inlet keeps slipping off the oval big bore - looking at it, it's been cut down. It's actually a reducer hose. If it was an inch longer, I'm pretty confident it would work. I'll investigate what I can get tomorrow.

 

[cupra_matt]

DOH. dont let a tiny bit of silicone pipe get you down.

Get the rest done, only an hours work to do fluids, injectors and ECU then less to do toomorrow.

Good luck. You got a video camera for grand start up?

 

[DPJ]

DOH. dont let a tiny bit of silicone pipe get you down.

Get the rest done, only an hours work to do fluids, injectors and ECU then less to do toomorrow.

Good luck.

Cheers Matt! I bounce back quickly and don't let things beat me for long. I think you've got to have persistence and determination to work on cars.
I've got proper work for the next three days. I should manage to squeeze in the other bits in the evenings though.

You got a video camera for grand start up?

That's a thought!

 

[myk3]

for now just dont bolt the inlet pipe flange right up to the back, just bolt it around 1cm so the hose clamp can hold the silicone on nice then will fee up some more slack for the oval side

 

[cupra_matt]

Who's mapping this for you?

 

[Chemical Al]

revo stage 3

 

[DPJ]

for now just dont bolt the inlet pipe flange right up to the back, just bolt it around 1cm so the hose clamp can hold the silicone on nice then will fee up some more slack for the oval side

I spent an hour trying to make exactly that arrangement work, it won't stay on, but thanks for the thought. The hose has been cut short. I was driving half an hour ago and I had an idea to test - I brought the bits inside to try my theory.

The issue is that the centreline of the compressor inlet is 10-12mm lower than the centreline of the oval big bore. Because of that the hose needs a bit more length. I made the three pieces up and then tried to push the compressor inlet piece downward by that distance - it will go. The thing is, the shortened hose won't fit on each piece AND meet the diagonal gap.

 

[DPJ]

Who's mapping this for you?

revo stage 3

Already flashed on my ECU.

 

[PhilW]

Good luck dave, so close now you can smell the 99 ron.

Dont forget to prime the turbo as well.

 

[DPJ]

Good luck dave, so close now you can smell the 99 ron.

Dont forget to prime the turbo as well.

Thanks Phil, I don't know about 99, I can still smell oil after having the loose breather nearly shoved up my right nostril for two hours while I played intakes.

Yes, I'm going to turn the engine over a few times before I refit the ECU. ATP were rather extravagant on the length of the oil feed to the turbo, there's so much spare it's difficult to know where to put it. It would probably reach the engine of the car in front.

 

[PhilW]

Just looking at that again, its gonna be a lot easier for me to install the TIP as i dont have an oil breather to TIP, EVAP or anything apart from my DV.

 

[DPJ]

Just looking at that again, its gonna be a lot easier for me to install the TIP as i dont have an oil breather to TIP, EVAP or anything apart from my DV.

It's all in the planning Phil. A few things less to worry about..

I was kicking myself earlier for not stripping out the secondary air crap before now. It made it really hard to get at the oil feed point.

 

[PhilW]

Also makes it a lot easier to get the oil filter off.

Really been enjoying this thread tho dave, nice to see some home diy done in not so perfect conditions instead of a lot of cheque book cars that happens.

 

[DPJ]

.......... nice to see some home diy done in not so perfect conditions instead of a lot of cheque book cars that happens.

Good point! Forum members can read about people taking their cars to x to spend £y - with mediocre to great results.

There's a load of people here with a certain level of skill. Reading the right thing gives confidence to perhaps try something yourself.

What I like about this forum is that there's a lot of honesty about when things don't go right, plus a lot of people to help when things go wrong. I don't think I would have set out to do this install if I didn't have confidence I could come here and ask......

 

[wild willy]

Nice work dave, nice to see some honest modding. I was told any idiot could change a turbo in 4 hours... took me between 12-16 over a weekend between family comitments. If it went too easy, you wouldn't appreciate it as much.
I'm sure a standard forge silicon reducer will do the trick for you... get the calipers out.
You've done so well on this project so far, I'm going to cut you some slack and allow you some time off.

 

[myk3]

just to ad some info on the forge silicone reducers, they will be bloody tight as forges silicone its just to high quality to make a total seal around the oval, its so hard to collaps and strech.

i would recomend something like venair from ebay. flimzy stuff that will mould around the oval nicer.

just a thought!

 

[myk3]

this should do the trick, im pretty sure the ID widths should be correct http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STRAIGHT-REDU...hZ008QQcategoryZ72205QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

 

[PhilW]

Dave, can you do me a favour, whats the OD of the outlet pipe off the turbo? I need to sort out a silicone for that to my charge pipe. Thanks.

 

[DPJ]

Nice work dave, nice to see some honest modding. I was told any idiot could change a turbo in 4 hours... took me between 12-16 over a weekend between family comitments. If it went too easy, you wouldn't appreciate it as much.
I'm sure a standard forge silicon reducer will do the trick for you... get the calipers out.
You've done so well on this project so far, I'm going to cut you some slack and allow you some time off.

Cheers for the kind words, Willy.

just to ad some info on the forge silicone reducers, they will be bloody tight as forges silicone its just to high quality to make a total seal around the oval, its so hard to collaps and strech.

i would recomend something like venair from ebay. flimzy stuff that will mould around the oval nicer.

just a thought!

That's the great thing about you guys. I go to bed, when I wake up there are really useful suggestions waiting for me. Thank you!

I think you're right there. I had a new 75mm Forge coupler in my hand this morning *(bit smaller than the oval) and it will squash to match the shape of the oval - but I don't think it would do the downward flex as well.

this should do the trick, im pretty sure the ID widths should be correct http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STRAIGHT-REDU...hZ008QQcategoryZ72205QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

I'll have a good look at that a little later.

Dave, can you do me a favour, whats the OD of the outlet pipe off the turbo? I need to sort out a silicone for that to my charge pipe. Thanks.

The piece I have that bolts on the compressor outlet is 63mm od, Phil.

 

[PhilW]

Thanks for that dave.