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DPJ's GTRS Eliminator Install and Development

Wilko said:
Dave
My cars 5 dooor with a sunroof, climate, and prety much everything you can chuck on a golf bar sat nav. I weighed it at mid 1300's without me in it and less than half a tank of gas on more than one weigh bridge. It's a heavy mother. 60 to 100 in 4th is mid to low 5's with full weight. 60-90 in 3rd in 3.3.
Unfortunately it feels slow now, which is why I was pleased to see it's quicker than a quick car.
Give yours a month or two and you'll be looking for more. :D
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have you not removed your aircon pump etc.?

Seem to remember you mentioning something along them lines at Awesome once.
 
No secondary air pump mate. Still got all the aircon intact. I could loose 20kg off me just as easily as I could the car.

Dave. Thats quick. I once logged a 5.3 on ihi, but it was normally low 6's. You could get a bit more boost in there dave. Nowt wrong with maxing out the map sensor, as long as you have a boost guage, and make sure boost doesn't start to creep up (if your maf sensor goes), you should be fine.

The risk you take is if the maf starts to under read, and the map is maxed or close to it, the timing is already at the end of the tables, and won't be reduced as the ecu won't see that you have more boost.

If you have a boost guage you'll see it happen, hopefully before anything goes pop. You could always fit a 2 bar sensor from a 150pd and run with some map sensor headroom, and safety.

Chasing timing is well worth it. If you can run more boost and maintain good timing, it's all good.

But remember if your wmi fails, it can be really bad if you're maxing out your timing.

I set mine up to give 3-6's in 6th on a long pull with wmi, which sees 6-9's if I turn it off, so the ecu's knock control has some room left to manoeuvre.

If you're setting it up for 3-6's in 3rd and 4th you'll see a few 9's in 6th, so if your wmi fails, you're in trouble. A little bit of safety is worth the tiny loss of power. It can get mighty expensive if it goes wrong.
 
I don't like the tight turn of air direction so close to the compressor wheel. Can't be good for a smooth flow, but hey, a dyno might prove different. :shrug:

I saw the eliminator kit you posted from these people. Good price if it does include the ATP manifold.
 
ibizacupra said:
:doh:
but you chose to stick with eliminator setup.........?

as opposed conventional T25/T3 flanged jobbie
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:D
I probably will stick with it for a while, it's great fun. But as John (Wilko) says, you soon want more. The eliminator seemed the solution to my problem of needing to replace a knackered turbo, Bill. I was lucky to pick up a good second-hand one cheap. This thread is testimony to the work and thought that has gone into making it work. It's been an interesting learning curve. Let's just say if I knew then what I knew now, I'd have taken a different route. I had an ATP manifold to start with, but everything else has been changed/ made, leaving the ATP manifold the bit that really does need changing!!!
 
Fooling the N75?

My latest efforts and the car feels its quickest yet. Not developed yet - here's some logs.

T9 HB9 50% WMI 4 degrees outside.
Code: 
Monday	7	January	2008	20:10:35				
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002						

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020		
	Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC				
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
7.31	3440	88.92	100	28.5	0	0	0	0
7.92	3640	113.39	100	14.3	0	0	3	0
8.62	3920	137.22	100	12.8	0	0	3	0
9.23	4160	168.78	100	9	0	0	3	0
9.93	4520	197.31	100	9	3	0	3	0
10.53	4800	215.33	100	8.3	3	0	3	0
11.24	5160	221.47	100	9.8	3	0	3	0
11.94	5440	214.5	100	10.5	3	0	3	0
12.55	5640	208.31	100	12	3	0	3	0
13.26	5880	208.08	100	14.3	3	0	2.3	0
13.85	6080	206.89	100	17.3	2.3	0	1.5	0
14.46	6240	228.25	100	15.8	1.5	0	0.8	0
15.07	6440	224.33	100	15.8	0.8	0	0	0
15.76	6600	212.78	100	21.8	0	0	0	3
16.47	6800	215.89	100	18.8	0	0	0	3
17.17	6920	217.08	99.6	18	0	3	0	3
17.77	7040	216.67	99.6	21	0	3	0	3
18.39	7200	217.08	98	21.8	0	3	0	2.3
18.99	7240	227.72	96.5	3	0	3	0	2.3

Code: 
	Group A:	'115		31	
Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost	Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor
700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar		
 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar		
3360	120.3	2240	1530	0.75	0.766
3680	137.6	2230	1770	0.75	0.797
3880	158.6	2350	2040	0.766	0.797
4080	182.7	2450	2340	0.782	0.797
4400	191.7	2440	2540	0.813	0.797
4720	191.7	2410	2540	0.789	0.805
5000	191.7	2370	2540	0.774	0.805
5240	191.7	2370	2540	0.789	0.805
5480	191.7	2390	2540	0.797	0.805
5720	191.7	2390	2510	0.789	0.805
5920	185	2400	2320	0.782	0.805
6120	190.2	2410	2540	0.789	0.805
6320	185	2410	2530	0.805	0.805
6480	171.4	2390	2340	0.797	0.805
6640	182.7	2390	2520	0.805	0.805
6840	178.2	2360	2470	0.789	0.805
7000	160.9	2270	2270	0.797	0.805
7080	157.1	2250	2210	0.75	0.805

And N75 duty cycle -

Code: 
Engine Speed	Bypas Dut Cyc/0-100%
700-6800 RPM	
 /min	%
3680	100
3840	100
4040	92.9
4240	66.7
4600	55.7
4920	43.5
5160	29.4
5400	14.1
5600	5.1
5840	8.6
6040	7.5
6240	11
6400	8.6
6560	9.4
6720	7.5
6840	3.9
6960	2.4
7080	0
7240	0

No limp mode, no fault lights or codes.......
 
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