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samjolly
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Sounds like a simple idea..... I assume you are serious with this comment?? Apologies if I am being a bit ignorant on all things mechanical.
If this is the way to go, then you are basically saying Golf (GT TDI???)Springs, dampners and bushes etc.???
Is the orginal Leon Chassis of an Audi A3 or Golf???
Thanks,
Sam
If this is the way to go, then you are basically saying Golf (GT TDI???)Springs, dampners and bushes etc.???
Is the orginal Leon Chassis of an Audi A3 or Golf???
Thanks,
Sam
golf mk4 is same suspension setup as the leon, the cupra r has audi s3 fronts and mk4golf rears. leon cupra mk4 golf front and rears
what engine is the leon?
what engine is the leon?
samjolly
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same suspension same spring rate then... simple swap over, although i cant see there being much difference in the ride on either.
but if you prefer the golf ride then try to match the charecteristics of that. you say the golf has 150k miles plus, could the softer ride be that the shocks are worn thus becoming bouncier creating the softer feel??
the suspension setup on the 2 should be very very similar.
what tyres are on the golf.... size and brand?? also whats on the leon to compare?
but if you prefer the golf ride then try to match the charecteristics of that. you say the golf has 150k miles plus, could the softer ride be that the shocks are worn thus becoming bouncier creating the softer feel??
the suspension setup on the 2 should be very very similar.
what tyres are on the golf.... size and brand?? also whats on the leon to compare?
samjolly
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James,
The Golf has always be "spongier". Infact this was a criticism of the MK4 Golf in that its chassis was too floaty and spongy. Some called it the "mini passat". However not a problem for me. To be honest if this was slightly tighter then that would be great.... Abit like the feel of a MK5 or 6 Golf. My Golf tyres are Dunlop 195/65/R15s. I guess the shocks etc may be slightly worn, but there has always been a large difference between the FR and the Golf in the ride.
Thanks,
Sam
The Golf has always be "spongier". Infact this was a criticism of the MK4 Golf in that its chassis was too floaty and spongy. Some called it the "mini passat". However not a problem for me. To be honest if this was slightly tighter then that would be great.... Abit like the feel of a MK5 or 6 Golf. My Golf tyres are Dunlop 195/65/R15s. I guess the shocks etc may be slightly worn, but there has always been a large difference between the FR and the Golf in the ride.
Thanks,
Sam
what tyres on the fr??
to run tighter youre looking at handling upgrades and stiffer suspension.. opposite to what you want from the fr.
Hmmm, they shouldn't be the same
20vt is a 1.8 petrol engine and 150 tdi is a 1.9 diesel.
So engines are different weights, therefore springs/suspension for one car, will make it sit differently for the other.
So as 1.9tdi is a heavier engine than the 1.8, that kit you're on about will make the fr sit very low at the front. And if you put a kit for an fr on a 1.8 then it will sit much higher at the front.
This make sense? lol.
samjolly
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yes you did, just seen it......!!!
James, did you get my postback... May have got lost in the 4X4 conversation !!!!
Cheers,
Sam
James, did you get my postback... May have got lost in the 4X4 conversation !!!!
Cheers,
Sam
Hmmm, they shouldn't be the same
20vt is a 1.8 petrol engine and 150 tdi is a 1.9 diesel.
So engines are different weights, therefore springs/suspension for one car, will make it sit differently for the other.
So as 1.9tdi is a heavier engine than the 1.8, that kit you're on about will make the fr sit very low at the front. And if you put a kit for an fr on a 1.8 then it will sit much higher at the front.
This make sense? lol.
diesel and 1.8t spring rates run roughly the same, big difference is the stock leons to turbo or tdi leons.
if you look at aftermarket kits they are always listed for 1.8t AND 1.9tdi
for example
http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/seat-leon-1m-99-05-c-2376_2530_2574.html
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Hmmm, they shouldn't be the same
20vt is a 1.8 petrol engine and 150 tdi is a 1.9 diesel.
So engines are different weights, therefore springs/suspension for one car, will make it sit differently for the other.
So as 1.9tdi is a heavier engine than the 1.8, that kit you're on about will make the fr sit very low at the front. And if you put a kit for an fr on a 1.8 then it will sit much higher at the front.
This make sense? lol.
you would of thought so but they are indeed the same spring (eibach anyway). I dont think the tdi is much heavier than the 20vt.
Ah ok, fair enough, I assumed it would the same for aftermarket kits as it is for the stock suspension.
samjolly
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James, Not quite sure since it is not here. But standard FR fit low profile tyres.
About stiffer handling I meant to say that putting Golf suspension on the Leon would probably end up with something that was slightly harder than my current spongy Golf which would be good... ie a midway point.
To clarify when you talk about Golf suspension are you talking about all the components ie
Spring, Dampners and bushes or what?
Cheers,
Sam
About stiffer handling I meant to say that putting Golf suspension on the Leon would probably end up with something that was slightly harder than my current spongy Golf which would be good... ie a midway point.
To clarify when you talk about Golf suspension are you talking about all the components ie
Spring, Dampners and bushes or what?
Cheers,
Sam
hard ride could be down to poor quality tyres mate, or hard compound tyres.
well the bushes,top mounts etc are all the same.
id maybe look for some low mileage mk4 shocks and springs then stiffen the roll by adding arbs and strut brace... best of both then.
well the bushes,top mounts etc are all the same.
id maybe look for some low mileage mk4 shocks and springs then stiffen the roll by adding arbs and strut brace... best of both then.
From memory standard FR alloys have about 255/45/17 but not sure on tyre width with that.
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