Melan!e
Guest
Hi everybody 
Does anybody knows what is the meaning of the 52 choices in the climatronic menu?
Thanks
Does anybody knows what is the meaning of the 52 choices in the climatronic menu?
Thanks
Hi Melanie!
Where does it say this ?, is this for the Ibiza mk5 ?
I've got the digital Climate control in mine and i've never seen anything referring to 52 options ?, could it not mean 52 settings of temperature within the range LO to HI, i.e. LO, 18, 18.5,19,19.5,20.....HI ?, although that still doesn't add up to 52 ;(
Regards,
Andy
Where does it say this ?, is this for the Ibiza mk5 ?
I've got the digital Climate control in mine and i've never seen anything referring to 52 options ?, could it not mean 52 settings of temperature within the range LO to HI, i.e. LO, 18, 18.5,19,19.5,20.....HI ?, although that still doesn't add up to 52 ;(
Regards,
Andy
Melan!e
Guest
Hi Andy. I don't mean 52 setting of temperature. I mean the "secret" menu. You can appear it by pressing 3 buttons at the same time. I have mark you the 3 buttons in the link below.
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Hmm, have u tried it ?. I know this worked on my Leon Cupra, but have never seen it work on the Ibiza mk5 !!. However that picture IS of the Ibiza mk5 so it must work. I'll investigate at break-time and see what it brings up !
I know for the Leon, it goes like this:
1 System malfunction - displayed as a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC), see chart below
2 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)
3 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)
4 Digital value of Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)
5 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front
6 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor
7 Digital value of Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)
8 Digital value of Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)
9 Delta value of Temperature Regulator Flap
10 Non-corrected specified value of Temperature Regulator Flap
11 Digital value of Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
12 Specified value of Central Flap
13 Digital value of Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 114)
14 Specified value of Footwell/Defroster Flap
15 Digital value of Air Flow Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
16 Specified value of Air Flow Flap
17 Vehicle Speed (km/h)
18 Actual Air Blower voltage (Volts)
19 Specified Fresh Air Blower voltage (Volts)
20 A/C Compressor (A/C Clutch) voltage (Volts)
21 Number of low voltage occurrences, non-transient
22 Cycle condition of A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)
23 Cyclings of the A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)
24 Cyclings of the switches, absolute non-fluctuating
25 Analog/Digital value, Kick-Down Switch
26 Analog/Digital value, Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Warning Light
27 Engine Speed (RPM)
28 N/A
29 A/C Compressor speed in rpm (Equals Engine Speed x 1.28)
30 Software version
31 N/A
32 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Temperature Regulator Flap
33 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Central Flap
34 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Footwell/Defroster Flap
35 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Air Flow Map
36 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)
37 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92), max. stop
38 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
39 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
40 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)
41 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)
42 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
43 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
44 Vehicle operation cycle counter
45 Calculated interior temperature (internal software, in digits)
46 Outside (ambient) temperature, filtered, for regulation (internal software)
47 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (internal software, in deg C)
48 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (in digits)
49 Malfunction counter for speedometer (vehicle speed) signal
50 Standing time (in minutes)
51 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) in deg C
52 Graphics channel 1 - A/C compressor switch-off conditions are identified by illuminated segments of the “88.8” display. See chart below.
53 Graphics channel 2 - Climate system electrical outputs are identified by illuminated segments of the “88.8” display. See chart below.
54 Control characteristics
55 Outside (ambient) temperature, in deg C or deg F depending on setting on A/C control head
56 Temperature in deg C, from Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)
57 Temperature in deg C, from Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)
58 Temperature in deg C, from Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)
59 Temperature in deg C, from Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front
60 Temperature in deg C, from Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)
61 Software version (latest)
86 Display Check (All Segments of Climate Control display light up
So maybe this is the same on the Ibiza ?????
Andy
I know for the Leon, it goes like this:
1 System malfunction - displayed as a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC), see chart below
2 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)
3 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)
4 Digital value of Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)
5 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front
6 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor
7 Digital value of Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)
8 Digital value of Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)
9 Delta value of Temperature Regulator Flap
10 Non-corrected specified value of Temperature Regulator Flap
11 Digital value of Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
12 Specified value of Central Flap
13 Digital value of Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 114)
14 Specified value of Footwell/Defroster Flap
15 Digital value of Air Flow Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
16 Specified value of Air Flow Flap
17 Vehicle Speed (km/h)
18 Actual Air Blower voltage (Volts)
19 Specified Fresh Air Blower voltage (Volts)
20 A/C Compressor (A/C Clutch) voltage (Volts)
21 Number of low voltage occurrences, non-transient
22 Cycle condition of A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)
23 Cyclings of the A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)
24 Cyclings of the switches, absolute non-fluctuating
25 Analog/Digital value, Kick-Down Switch
26 Analog/Digital value, Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Warning Light
27 Engine Speed (RPM)
28 N/A
29 A/C Compressor speed in rpm (Equals Engine Speed x 1.28)
30 Software version
31 N/A
32 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Temperature Regulator Flap
33 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Central Flap
34 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Footwell/Defroster Flap
35 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Air Flow Map
36 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)
37 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92), max. stop
38 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
39 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
40 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)
41 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)
42 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
43 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
44 Vehicle operation cycle counter
45 Calculated interior temperature (internal software, in digits)
46 Outside (ambient) temperature, filtered, for regulation (internal software)
47 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (internal software, in deg C)
48 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (in digits)
49 Malfunction counter for speedometer (vehicle speed) signal
50 Standing time (in minutes)
51 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) in deg C
52 Graphics channel 1 - A/C compressor switch-off conditions are identified by illuminated segments of the “88.8” display. See chart below.
53 Graphics channel 2 - Climate system electrical outputs are identified by illuminated segments of the “88.8” display. See chart below.
54 Control characteristics
55 Outside (ambient) temperature, in deg C or deg F depending on setting on A/C control head
56 Temperature in deg C, from Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)
57 Temperature in deg C, from Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)
58 Temperature in deg C, from Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)
59 Temperature in deg C, from Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front
60 Temperature in deg C, from Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)
61 Software version (latest)
86 Display Check (All Segments of Climate Control display light up
So maybe this is the same on the Ibiza ?????
Andy
Melan!e
Guest
Hmm, have u tried it ?. I know this worked on my Leon Cupra, but have never seen it work on the Ibiza mk5 !!. However that picture IS of the Ibiza mk5 so it must work. I'll investigate at break-time and see what it brings up !
I know for the Leon, it goes like this:
1 System malfunction - displayed as a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC), see chart below
2 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)
3 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)
4 Digital value of Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)
5 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front
6 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor
7 Digital value of Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)
8 Digital value of Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)
9 Delta value of Temperature Regulator Flap
10 Non-corrected specified value of Temperature Regulator Flap
11 Digital value of Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
12 Specified value of Central Flap
13 Digital value of Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 114)
14 Specified value of Footwell/Defroster Flap
15 Digital value of Air Flow Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
16 Specified value of Air Flow Flap
17 Vehicle Speed (km/h)
18 Actual Air Blower voltage (Volts)
19 Specified Fresh Air Blower voltage (Volts)
20 A/C Compressor (A/C Clutch) voltage (Volts)
21 Number of low voltage occurrences, non-transient
22 Cycle condition of A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)
23 Cyclings of the A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)
24 Cyclings of the switches, absolute non-fluctuating
25 Analog/Digital value, Kick-Down Switch
26 Analog/Digital value, Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Warning Light
27 Engine Speed (RPM)
28 N/A
29 A/C Compressor speed in rpm (Equals Engine Speed x 1.28)
30 Software version
31 N/A
32 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Temperature Regulator Flap
33 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Central Flap
34 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Footwell/Defroster Flap
35 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Air Flow Map
36 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)
37 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92), max. stop
38 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
39 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)
40 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)
41 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)
42 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
43 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)
44 Vehicle operation cycle counter
45 Calculated interior temperature (internal software, in digits)
46 Outside (ambient) temperature, filtered, for regulation (internal software)
47 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (internal software, in deg C)
48 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (in digits)
49 Malfunction counter for speedometer (vehicle speed) signal
50 Standing time (in minutes)
51 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) in deg C
52 Graphics channel 1 - A/C compressor switch-off conditions are identified by illuminated segments of the “88.8” display. See chart below.
53 Graphics channel 2 - Climate system electrical outputs are identified by illuminated segments of the “88.8” display. See chart below.
54 Control characteristics
55 Outside (ambient) temperature, in deg C or deg F depending on setting on A/C control head
56 Temperature in deg C, from Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)
57 Temperature in deg C, from Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)
58 Temperature in deg C, from Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)
59 Temperature in deg C, from Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front
60 Temperature in deg C, from Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)
61 Software version (latest)
86 Display Check (All Segments of Climate Control display light up
So maybe this is the same on the Ibiza ?????
Andy
Yes, i have tried. Unfortunately is not the same as leon. is diffenent
We have only 52 choices. The leon has more...
This sounds like a thread for Techie! lol
Interesting find though - I've always wondered if the mk5 could do this.
My old mk3 had climate control, but no diagnostics.
Interesting find though - I've always wondered if the mk5 could do this.
My old mk3 had climate control, but no diagnostics.
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LOL i posted that photo yesterday on a Greek forum. How did you find it so quickly ?
We have still not found what each code refers to. Code 11 may be for water temperature but not sure.
Melan!e
Guest
Just done a few tests over dinnertime and marked what each one read BEFORE starting the car, then what each one read after 5 minutes AFTER start and to see if any fluctuate whilst driving.
And it's more of a mystery than i'd have thought, because there's nothing obvious to conclude from it at all!. None of the settings read anywhere close to 90 (water temp), and none of them seem to do the speed or RPM.
All of them have "degrees C" written after them, but i don't think they are ALL temperature readings, it cannot have 52 separate temperature readings surely !
The plot thickens!. Can anyone shed any light as to what these 52 codes are reading, they must be telling us something !
Best Regards,
Andy
And it's more of a mystery than i'd have thought, because there's nothing obvious to conclude from it at all!. None of the settings read anywhere close to 90 (water temp), and none of them seem to do the speed or RPM.
All of them have "degrees C" written after them, but i don't think they are ALL temperature readings, it cannot have 52 separate temperature readings surely !
The plot thickens!. Can anyone shed any light as to what these 52 codes are reading, they must be telling us something !
Best Regards,
Andy
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Melan!e
Guest
General Andy these codes include oil temperature, water temperature, speed, engine RPM, temperature of incoming air etc. Now, we just want to translate these 52 numbers
LOL. Yes i know. I steal it from you
Seatclub.gr goes seatcupra.net LOL
Well i've found that Number 4 seems to closely tally with the Outside Temperature Reading (give or take 0.5 degrees C) on the information panel (next to the speedo), as does Number 5 and Number 26 !
There does not seem to be any RPM, none of them fluctuate as the revs go up, i've looked into that !.
There was only 1 or 2 which remotely looked like oil temps or water temps, but they were hovering around the 99.5 mark, which seems too hot !.
Someone must know these codes, lets just hope we get them !
Andy
There does not seem to be any RPM, none of them fluctuate as the revs go up, i've looked into that !.
There was only 1 or 2 which remotely looked like oil temps or water temps, but they were hovering around the 99.5 mark, which seems too hot !.
Someone must know these codes, lets just hope we get them !
Andy
Melan!e
Guest
1st Figure is the Number - 2nd figure is the reading it gives before engine start - 3rd figure is the reading it gives after 5 minutes of engine running.
00 08.0 04.0
01 18.0 25.0
02 00.0 00.0
03 00.0 01.0
04 13.5
05 13.5 14.5
06 00.0
07 18.0 41.0
08 18.5 40.0
09 03.5 05.0
10 03.5 05.0
11 00.0 15.0 then 18.5 then 24.0
12 00.0 35.0 then 40.5 then 42.0
13 49.0
14 00.0 76.5 then 58.0 then 46.0
15 00.0 17.5 then 39.0
16 05.0 04.5
17 19.0 14.5
18 00.0
19 06.0
20 04.0 07.0
21 00.0
22 00.0
Then i gave up !! ;(
Andy
00 08.0 04.0
01 18.0 25.0
02 00.0 00.0
03 00.0 01.0
04 13.5
05 13.5 14.5
06 00.0
07 18.0 41.0
08 18.5 40.0
09 03.5 05.0
10 03.5 05.0
11 00.0 15.0 then 18.5 then 24.0
12 00.0 35.0 then 40.5 then 42.0
13 49.0
14 00.0 76.5 then 58.0 then 46.0
15 00.0 17.5 then 39.0
16 05.0 04.5
17 19.0 14.5
18 00.0
19 06.0
20 04.0 07.0
21 00.0
22 00.0
Then i gave up !! ;(
Andy
The engine temp and the oil temp can be more than 100 C...
I also have a Scangauge II fitted to my car and it never gets past 87C, so 99.5 does seem a little high ??
Regards,
Andy
hugocadavez
Guest
Hi Andy. I don't mean 52 setting of temperature. I mean the "secret" menu. You can appear it by pressing 3 buttons at the same time. I have mark you the 3 buttons in the link below.
yfrog.com/0jclimahj
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Great! At least we know how to access the function. Are there any news regarding the meaning of the codes?
Still haven't been able to find out anything at all about it ..
If you spot the meanings of the codes let us know on here !
Andy
..If you spot the meanings of the codes let us know on here !
Andy
Melan!e
Guest
Seat never know !, they hadn't a clue about after-market USB options for the Beeza mk5. They told me it could be done, then they told me it couldn't. They're pretty useless at anything apart from maintaining your car ;P
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