Is it worth changing from a Cupra to a Cupra R or a Focus RS

[sportbilly]

XDS is good for what it is and better than not having one, a good idea from a manufaturer that wasn't ever going to put a mechanical diff in as standard but... its never going to be as good as a mechanical diff.

BMW would be a nice choice, the twin turbo engines are meant to be awesome

Answer to the original question - Cupra to Cupra R, dont see the point unless you have money to burn, Cupra to RS - its a change I suppose...

 

[Evsi]

I do like the Focus RS, but to me, i think it's an insult to the RS name. It's basically a Volvo C30 that's been played with and if i ever bought one, that's all i'd see it as.

As for the Megane - It's French and will almost certainly be unable to stand the test of time

I was very impressed with the 335i, although the lack of lsd and high tax band did put me off a bit. The Evo's are probably more impressive in terms of handling and adrenalin factor, but my god your wallet will know about it when it goes wrong!

What about RS4's? I'd imagine they're dropping in value now?

 

[Deleted member 53697]

Just seen this; can't believe the value for money... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3152769.htm

 

[sportbilly]

What about the S5 - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3094023.htm

 

[cupra_ahhh]

Or a VW Scirocco R DSG? I would defo choose a DSG if that were an option on the Cupra.

 

[Deleted member 53697]

What about the S5 - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3094023.htm

that's been forwarded on to the in-laws, there off to see it this week
muchos gracias for that one mate!

 

[Al]

RS4 is a non entity in my book. Not that fast for what it is and V8 thirst, high runing costs and a hefty price tag, and very expensive to fix when it all goes wrong.

On that note, the S5 with loads less ponies is even more of a non entity.

Regarding the comment on XDS above having had a MK2 Leon Cupra with no XDS then a Wavetrac LSD and then a FL Cupra with XDS, I can confirm that XDS is nothing more than 3 letters. I am willing to bet that a standard Pre FL and FL Cupra are all but identical to drive other than the fake speaker thing in the Facelift model.

 

[cupra_ahhh]

fake speaker thing in the Facelift model.

Oh yeah, that thing that's supposed to make the car sound more aggressive? Pha! that's a really lame thing to have. A speaker that makes your car sound better installed by the manufactures themselves. Kind of embarrassing.

 

[cupra_ahhh]

Cupra R and Cupra have same brakes too, everything is the same other than the size of the wheels and the turning circle. And the power output obviously.

 

[Evsi]

RS4 is a non entity in my book. Not that fast for what it is and V8 thirst, high runing costs and a hefty price tag, and very expensive to fix when it all goes wrong.

On that note, the S5 with loads less ponies is even more of a non entity.

Regarding the comment on XDS above having had a MK2 Leon Cupra with no XDS then a Wavetrac LSD and then a FL Cupra with XDS, I can confirm that XDS is nothing more than 3 letters. I am willing to bet that a standard Pre FL and FL Cupra are all but identical to drive other than the fake speaker thing in the Facelift model.

Not that fast? As a package, it's one of the greatest and most reliable sports saloons you can buy.

 

[Ryan20]

Agreed i drove the Cupra R and it felt good compared to my FR TDI without LSD but have since driven a LSD car

is that why when i put my foot down in 2nd gear i can see the traction control light flashing away because it only a XDS not a LSD?

 

[Ryan20]

Or a VW Scirocco R DSG? I would defo choose a DSG if that were an option on the Cupra.

i was think of that and the fact that it's a lot cheaper then a Golf R is really tempting knowing that it has a Golf chassis underneath the body but i belive them to be FWD not 4WD like the Golf R

 

[Ryan20]

Don't entertain a FQ300. The car is a heavy tub and the 4x4 saps the power, my stage 2 tdi is fit for them, you'd be disappointed moving from a Cupra IMO

true but i don't like the fact that the FQ-360+400 only have a 5speed gearbox not a 6speed

 

[cupra_ahhh]

i was think of that and the fact that it's a lot cheaper then a Golf R is really tempting knowing that it has a Golf chassis underneath the body but i belive them to be FWD not 4WD like the Golf R

Yeah that's right, they're FWD only. Still pretty expensive second hand though, about £25k from an approved dealer. Looks brilliant though, and more head room in the back than an Audi A5/S5, plus same engine and performance as an S3 so relatively modest to run. I've taken one for a spin with the DSG, I fell in love with that gear box, it really is something else, it’s a masterpiece.

 

[Al]

Not that fast? As a package, it's one of the greatest and most reliable sports saloons you can buy.

An Evo FQ400 would destroy the more powerful RS4. I would hardly call it one of the greatest as its uninvolving to drive, it hardly has razor sharp handling and it looks its age now with the new model A4 being 3 years in.

 

[sportbilly]

An Evo FQ400 would destroy the more powerful RS4. I would hardly call it one of the greatest as its uninvolving to drive, it hardly has razor sharp handling and it looks its age now with the new model A4 being 3 years in.

Yeh but then you would have to service it while the RS4 keeps going

Just kidding, not the cheapest to run the Evo's though - I know the RS4 isnt either but couldnt resisit.

 

[Al]

I don't think either car would be top of anyone's list for cheap cars to run - rs4 and evo that is. Remember the evo x is 10k service intervals bs the short intervals for the older models though.

 

[Deleted member 53697]

RS4 is a ****ing cool car end of. It also has the added benefit of not depreciating much more over the next couple of years... Can't think of a much more iconic car for £20k...

 

[robdf2]

isnt there a member on here who moved to an RS4? and now thinking of going back to a K1 again?
think that says a lot about the RS4.

 

[Freewheelin']

Don't entertain a FQ300. The car is a heavy tub and the 4x4 saps the power, my stage 2 tdi is fit for them, you'd be disappointed moving from a Cupra IMO

Having owned both at the same time the Evo X is in a different league to the Cupra....although it does need 400bhp to do the chassis justice but this can be achieved relatively cheaply.