Cam Follower - how long to change?

[Sast]

My car is booked in at SEAT for a new cambelt & it's MOT. I've asked them about the cam follower and if they can do it at the same time.

They have said it's an 8 hour job to change the cam follower and I will need to book a new date if I want this doing...8 hours?? is that correct?

 

[Sinbad]

8 hour job?!

hahahahah
15 minutes mate.

 

[Sast]

8 hour job?!

hahahahah
15 minutes mate.

Yeah that's what I thought... :S

 

[Sast]

The girl at SEAT has asked me to provide some more information regarding the cam follower so she can ask the technicians.

Anything info you can give me to pass onto her would be great.

Part number etc

 

[cheungy]

10 mins for me...

30 mins...if you have the banjo bolt version!

Very easy!

 

[jc_boc]

8 HRS???????!!!!!! I nearly fell off my chair now hahahahahahahaha. Seriously, 15 to 30 mins. maximum as all you are doing is removing the fuel pump changing the follower and replacing it. Sorry but this dealership sounds like a bunch of clowns mate.

 

[robdf2]

My car is booked in at SEAT for a new cambelt & it's MOT. I've asked them about the cam follower and if they can do it at the same time.

They have said it's an 8 hour job to change the cam follower and I will need to book a new date if I want this doing...8 hours?? is that correct?

I needed to change my cam follower and like you thought as my cam is going in for a service i would ask them to change it.
Firstly they said my car doesnt have a cam follower , then i explained that it was in between the cam shaft and fuel pump , and i showed it to them , then they came back with a time of 2 hours + vat , i querried why 2 hours and they said because they have never changed one before and they dont need changing !

i was laughing on the inside.

I changed mine on the end and even being super carfull took no longer than 45 mins.

 

[AdamRoutley]

The girl at SEAT has asked me to provide some more information regarding the cam follower so she can ask the technicians.

Anything info you can give me to pass onto her would be great.

Part number etc

8 HRS???????!!!!!! I nearly fell off my chair now hahahahahahahaha. Seriously, 15 to 30 mins. maximum as all you are doing is removing the fuel pump changing the follower and replacing it. Sorry but this dealership sounds like a bunch of clowns mate.

take it to a specialist mate.

A. it will be a while lot cheaper
B. the WILL know what they are doing!

 

[Jammy78]

8 hours.... so they reckon it'll take more time than changing a cambelt!? JOKERS!

This really is a DIY job. I managed to do it in 20-30 mins, just a few weeks ago. There's a very good guide on another forum (Skoda) with step by step instructions..... & pictures!!! Just make sure you have all the right tools / sockets to hand!

 

[AdamRoutley]

do you HAVE to do the TDC alignment thing as i have no idea?

 

[Jammy78]

do you HAVE to do the TDC alignment thing as i have no idea?

Nope! I'll dig out the guide I followed.....

 

[Jammy78]

Here's the guide:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/142836-how-to-change-fuel-pump-cam-follower-on-2-0-tfsi/

 

[robdf2]

i have just read your post again and seen from the opening line you are having the cam belt done by the same garage that quoted you 8 hours to change a cam follower?

alarm bells would be rinigning and i wouldnt trust them to change my cam belt or any belt for that matter !

think its time to find a recommended specialst mate .

 

[t0m]

8 hours?! LOL!!!!!!

 

[AdamRoutley]

Nope! I'll dig out the guide I followed.....

Ahh, thats the one I've been reading through.

This is the bit that scares me:

I didn't take any Pics of setting TDC as i had to use a small dentist type mirror and torch to be able to see what i was doing and it would never have worked on a picture.

Basically to set TDC undo the 2 left hand nuts at the side of the Cylinder head. You will need 2 people to do this next bit.

GENTLY and i mean gently pull back the side of the cover and look at the cogs on which the timing belt is sat. The biggest cog which is nearest the front of the engine at the top has a Small arrow on the left had side as you look at it. Also on the side of the engine just above the cog is a small arrow again. The aim is to get these 2 in line so you know your engine is at Top Dead Centre or TDC. Now to move the cog round put the engine in gear (i found it easiest in 4th) and have someone gently rock the car forwards to get the cog to turn. You keep your eye on the side of the timing cog looking for the small arrow. Keep doing this until the 2 Arrows are in line. Once this is done apply the handbrake and then tighten up the nuts on the cover as you don't need access to it again.

Im not sure if you have to Set TDC. When i installed the Autotech internals i was told that you must do it. So as you are removing the fuel pump i always do it just to be safe. If anyone with any mechanical expertise knows different please let me know.

 

[rllmuk]

All setting TDC means is that you'll have no resistance when reinstalling the pump, and less risk of any associated issues. Still, I'd guess 99% of people who've changed it, including me, didn't set it. You have to be very unlucky for the pump to need near full compression to reinstall!

 

[AdamRoutley]

lets just say you tried to do it and it was? would that be a major issue as I know my luck!

 

[Sast]

lets just say you tried to do it and it was? would that be a major issue as I know my luck!

This!

I'm gonna try this myself after reading the guide it seems easy enough...

apart from the above problem!

 

[Sinbad]

I think you would just battle to get the pump screwed down against the spring pressure.
It doesn't have to be precise tdc, you just don't want the cam lobe at max extension. Moving the car a couple of inches in gear will sort it if your a worst case...

 

[Sast]

Don't suppose anyone is around the wigan area and fancies giving me a hand? I will provide tea/coffee & bacon butties! (and i'll throw in a tip of course)

Just don't fancy attempting this on my own :s

edit - this was the reply from SEAT

"Hi Dan

Sorry for the long delay, I have spoken to tech we will need to check the fuel pump and camshaft before fitting bucket tap. This will cost more as tech will need to remove the camshaft to have a look."

Erm...what?