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Seat Ibiza MK5 - Spark plug change

You need to go onto eBay and search "VW Spark Plug Puller Tool". They are all basically hook shaped metal bodies with a black plastic handle. The one I use for the 1.4 BXW engine is the symetrial one with the 2 hooks underneath. The tools are the only way I know of pulling the coils up without damaging the plastic bodies.

The one I use is the Draper 23254. I think this is the one you want as well but please check !
 
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I have managed by using two screwdrivers diagonally opposite each other and close into the centre of the coil assembly - but, my youngest daughter bought me a Laser Tools VAG Coil Puller set - which was very handy as it also has one to fit my 2011 Audi S4 plugs! Unfortunately since getting that gift, I have not needed to change the plugs on a 1.4 16V VAG engine, I think, unless you are running quite high miles a year, plugs only need replacing at 6 years or 60?K miles. I think that I used to replace plugs at 5 years which equated to 40>50K miles. Some badly designed VAG engines need plugs replaced a bit sooner than that!
 
mine says 60k kms / maybe ???35 to 40k??? '??miles??
 
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Big-Pete said:
pull u tart
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??? You always get that one person, in forums who helps but also insults at the same time? there is no need for the "tart" comment??? If you are that annoyed by what i have asked, then merely dont respond. There is no harm in being cautious, that's why we have forums. I can clear see it is a pulling motion due to no bolts being involved, but as you can see, others have commented saying, to buy so and so tool, or pry up using screw drivers.

So come on, dont be "That guy"... no need, we are all here to help and learn.
 
Big Vinny said:
You need to go onto eBay and search "VW Spark Plug Puller Tool". They are all basically hook shaped metal bodies with a black plastic handle. The one I use for the 1.4 BXW engine is the symetrial one with the 2 hooks underneath. The tools are the only way I know of pulling the coils up without damaging the plastic bodies.

The one I use is the Draper 23254. I think this is the one you want as well but please check !
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Thank Vinny for getting back to me, i have had a look on ebay and i assume you mean this and also i assume its the middle tool you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-Volk...104996?hash=item3cf072fb24:g:k-IAAOSw0e9Us6tM
 
RUM4MO said:
I have managed by using two screwdrivers diagonally opposite each other and close into the centre of the coil assembly - but, my youngest daughter bought me a Laser Tools VAG Coil Puller set - which was very handy as it also has one to fit my 2011 Audi S4 plugs! Unfortunately since getting that gift, I have not needed to change the plugs on a 1.4 16V VAG engine, I think, unless you are running quite high miles a year, plugs only need replacing at 6 years or 60?K miles. I think that I used to replace plugs at 5 years which equated to 40>50K miles. Some badly designed VAG engines need plugs replaced a bit sooner than that!
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Thanks again Rum. Yeah i have seen what the change intervals are, i am not sure if my mother has ever had them changed? so just doing the prep work and research now, whilst im working on the car. appreciate again the response.
 
Big Vinny said:
This is the Draper one I use is marked COPP/VW pn 23254

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-VW...602590&hash=item211457be32:g:aekAAOSwdzVXowhu
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It says that is the last one, so maybe "get in there". That other ebay listing just made me remember that the one for my S4 is the smallest and most insignificant one, the one with the large ring to put your finger through - made for bigger/stronger fingers than I have!!! But I did get it work okay though got a sore finger as my S4 has 6 cylinders!
 
everson38 said:
??? You always get that one person, in forums who helps but also insults at the same time? there is no need for the "tart" comment??? If you are that annoyed by what i have asked, then merely dont respond. There is no harm in being cautious, that's why we have forums. I can clear see it is a pulling motion due to no bolts being involved, but as you can see, others have commented saying, to buy so and so tool, or pry up using screw drivers.

So come on, dont be "That guy"... no need, we are all here to help and learn.
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I think that he was really only joking intended in a friendly way there, this set of forums has a lot fewer "smart asses and gruff people that know a lot better than you" sorts than some others I am a member of, so don't take it badly!

I am originally from the West coast of Scotland and now living in the East side of Scotland and the difference between the two means that the less than open minded East coasters are not quite so smart as their West coast peers so sometimes what is said is taken the wrong way, such is life! (humour knows many boundaries?)

Edit:- the other thing could be that the Boca 1.4 twin charger engine probably has chunkier coils with easier access, your engine suffers from having smaller bodied coils recessed into that area of the cylinder head - which was why I needed to resort to careful use of a couple of screwdrivers levering off the plastic coil etc cableform frame.
 
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everson38 said:
??? You always get that one person, in forums who helps but also insults at the same time? there is no need for the "tart" comment??? If you are that annoyed by what i have asked, then merely dont respond. There is no harm in being cautious, that's why we have forums. I can clear see it is a pulling motion due to no bolts being involved, but as you can see, others have commented saying, to buy so and so tool, or pry up using screw drivers.

So come on, dont be "That guy"... no need, we are all here to help and learn.
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oh sorry flower,

i had the same issue, i thought i was going to break something by pulling to hard, and i had a vw master tech tell me to "just pull you tart" so i was just passing on the info i was given ;)

there is a tool for it, or u can make your own, with 2 cable ties, one around the front of the coil, the other around the back(unplug it first) then pull.

no offence meant.
 
RUM4MO said:
I think that he was really only joking intended in a friendly way there, this set of forums has a lot fewer "smart asses and gruff people that know a lot better than you" sorts than some others I am a member of, so don't take it badly!

I am originally from the West coast of Scotland and now living in the East side of Scotland and the difference between the two means that the less than open minded East coasters are not quite so smart as their West coast peers so sometimes what is said is taken the wrong way, such is life! (humour knows many boundaries?)

Edit:- the other thing could be that the Boca 1.4 twin charger engine probably has chunkier coils with easier access, your engine suffers from having smaller bodied coils recessed into that area of the cylinder head - which was why I needed to resort to careful use of a couple of screwdrivers levering off the plastic coil etc cableform frame.
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far as im aware they are the same coils. and if he wanted he could run boca coils.

was only inteded in jest. nothing meant to cause offence.
 
I don't know about your engine in the Boca, but these previous models of engines have quite compact coils and they get surrounded by the plastic cable management insert that is fitted to the cylinder head, so no chance of unplugging anything before getting the coils up about 50mm out of their initial position - a great idea to provide that cable management tray but very flawed concept unless you have access to a coil puller.

I think that it is possible to unclick all the cable retainers and ease out the coils all at once and so avoid the need to wrestle with the connectors, it is a long time since I last needed to do that job on that version of the 1.4 16V 75PS or 85PS engine - which is nothing like the 1.4TSI engines.

To the OP, if you must remove the coil connectors, remember to force the connector in more towards the coil before using a screwdriver to tilt and so unlock the retaining tang on the cableform, failure to do that could mean that you break the coil's mating connector's housing as that tang is normally under quite a high load from the environmental seal being compressed in that connection pair.

Edit:- to use an old but well used phrase, "in the day" ie when these 1.4 16V 75/85/100PS engines first appeared, along with their horrible 1.2 6/12V chums, the tip was to make a couple of coil extractors out of bent welding rods - that was before the tools aftermarket suppliers came up with suitable pullers.
 
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RUM4MO said:
It says that is the last one, so maybe "get in there". That other ebay listing just made me remember that the one for my S4 is the smallest and most insignificant one, the one with the large ring to put your finger through - made for bigger/stronger fingers than I have!!! But I did get it work okay though got a sore finger as my S4 has 6 cylinders!
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Yeah i have seen that, i may jump on buying it now! So im guessing the process to use them is:

1) Unclip electrical wiring from coil
2) Slight precise up coil
3) Place puller undrneath
4) pull up and out from the handle?
 
Big-Pete said:
oh sorry flower,

i had the same issue, i thought i was going to break something by pulling to hard, and i had a vw master tech tell me to "just pull you tart" so i was just passing on the info i was given ;)

there is a tool for it, or u can make your own, with 2 cable ties, one around the front of the coil, the other around the back(unplug it first) then pull.

no offence meant.
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No worries, apologies is read it wrong, as we know it is hard to judge tone over typing or txt etc with the use of LOL's and LMFAO's

I like the cable tie idea, but since its not my car i will probs play it safe and get correct tools!
 
As I said, I have not tried to use a proper coil lifter tool yet on that model of engine, but, looking again at the picture in your opening posting, you will see what I meant about there being a cable management tray in there, so what I found that I neded to do, even when using two screwdrivers was, open up the clips on the cable tray and start to remove the coils, it will be the same way with a tool, there should be enough room to clip the tool on and start at one end and ease them all up - you will need to do that as you will run out of cabling if you try to just remove one at a time, doing it my way avoids needing to unplug a single coil - if I remember correctly!

Disconnecting these VAG type of connectors is not rocket science, but it needs a bit of care and understanding to get every one apart with no damage - to the extent that I have a large empty VAG type connector that I keep purely for rechecking exactly how to open the latch, it is done by inserting a suitable flat blade screwdriver into the small opening on the top of the connector after pressing the mating connector pair together to remove any load from that latch, then ease the connector pair apart. So, never be tempted to stick a screwdriver into the small opening on the end of the connector as that only forces the latch further down and not up!

Edit:- looking at that picture again, the latches are on the underside of the connectors as they are placed in the engine - another very good reason to free up the cable restraints prior to easing up these coils!
 
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**** pic, but same coils as my boc.

just pull up, at both eds and ur golden.(i do plugs every5k, and im at 95k now, so ive done it a few times )
 
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