One for Admin I guess - Could a separate Mk5 sub forum be added here please? I have no idea what work that entails, but if that's not do able perhaps amend this thread title to Mk4/Mk5?
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Mk5 CUPRA Leon - Dedicated Sub Forum? *Edit* It's a 4.5 - ADMINS please delete this post
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Is there actually a mk5 version of the Leon yet - Cupra or otherwise? With the mk3 Leon, when it got its facelift it was known as the mk3.5. If the same naming convention is applied to the mk4, then facelift version of the car would be the mk4.5.
My personal opinion (for what it’s worth) is that it makes sense for there to be just a single forum board that covers both pre- and post-facelift models, as many of the issues discussed on the forum are common to both the pre- and post-facelift cars. That’s just my opinion though.
As an aside, the main VW Polo forum has adopted the naming convention you have suggested from the 2009 model (the previous generation car) and it does give rise to a certain amount of confusion amongst forum members from time to time. The current Polo is the 6th generation car (so it’s the mk6), but the forum board for the current car refers to it as the mk10, mk11 and mk12!
My personal opinion (for what it’s worth) is that it makes sense for there to be just a single forum board that covers both pre- and post-facelift models, as many of the issues discussed on the forum are common to both the pre- and post-facelift cars. That’s just my opinion though.
As an aside, the main VW Polo forum has adopted the naming convention you have suggested from the 2009 model (the previous generation car) and it does give rise to a certain amount of confusion amongst forum members from time to time. The current Polo is the 6th generation car (so it’s the mk6), but the forum board for the current car refers to it as the mk10, mk11 and mk12!
If your car is like the one at the link below, it’ll be a facelift of the mk4 (a mk4.5).
2024 CUPRA Leon first look video - SEATCUPRA.NET
First look at the new CUPRA Leon. The new facelift model at CUPRA HQ, UK.
www.seatcupra.net
The forum is already fragmented enough between Seat and CUPRA of the exact same car, the CUPRA version getting only a fraction of the attention. Wait until there's an actual Mk5 rather than just a facelift of the MK4.
Lol, guy bought the same car but with the glowing badge and already being superior. xd
No, it's not Mk5. It's the same car with different bumpers.
No, it's not Mk5. It's the same car with different bumpers.
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As above, when the mk5 is released they'll add a mk5 section
Your car is a mk4 facelift
I've only ever heard it described a Mk 5, which was from a main CUPRA dealer. Maybe I should correct him.
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Maybe.
My experience with many salespeople at car dealerships is that they know relatively little about the cars they’re selling, so a salesperson describing the mk4 facelift as a mk5 isn’t really a surprise.
There are exceptions to the above; the two salespeople I dealt with when buying my current and previous car were time-served, each working for their respective dealerships and vehicle brands for 25+ years and 15 years respectively and they had extensive product knowledge. I always do lots of research before buying a car and ask the salesperson questions to test their knowledge! It was clear to me those salespeople they knew what they were talking about, and they were passionate about the cars they’re were selling and they both passed my test!
With the facelift mk4, Cupra would no doubt have promoted it in their sales and marketing material as the ‘new‘ - or ‘all-new’ - Cupra Leon to entice prospective customers into the dealerships; see showroom plate on the car in the picture below;
Cupra aren’t alone in promoting mid-lifecycle facelifts in this way; many (most?) other car manufacturers do the same. However to me, fitting a new design of bumpers, headlamps, alloy wheels and a larger touchscreen doesn’t make for an all new model; it’s a mild makeover to keep an existing model range fresh to generate customer interest and maintain / increase sales volumes until the next generation all-new replacement model comes along in a few years time.…….
A Mk4 Facelift it is then!Maybe.
My experience with many salespeople at car dealerships is that they know relatively little about the cars they’re selling, so a salesperson describing the mk4 facelift as a mk5 isn’t really a surprise.
There are exceptions to the above; the two salespeople I dealt with when buying my current and previous car were time-served, each working for their respective dealerships and vehicle brands for 25+ years and 15 years respectively and they had extensive product knowledge. I always do lots of research before buying a car and ask the salesperson questions to test their knowledge! It was clear to me those salespeople they knew what they were talking about, and they were passionate about the cars they’re were selling and they both passed my test!
With the facelift mk4, Cupra would no doubt have promoted it in their sales and marketing material as the ‘new‘ - or ‘all-new’ - Cupra Leon to entice prospective customers into the dealerships; see showroom plate on the car in the picture below;
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Cupra aren’t alone in promoting mid-lifecycle facelifts in this way; many (most?) other car manufacturers do the same. However to me, fitting a new design of bumpers, headlamps, alloy wheels and a larger touchscreen doesn’t make for an all new model; it’s a mild makeover to keep an existing model range fresh to generate customer interest and maintain / increase sales volumes until the next generation all-new replacement model comes along in a few years time.…….
Hi, just seen this. Yeah this is a 4.5 although CUPRA felt that it was so different they wanted us to call it the all new Leon, it's mid life refresh. We will have a MK5 forum when it's released. 
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In my experience I've found that I know more than the sales people after just a few hours of research. Completely bamboozled 2 sales people in my local Cupra/seat dealers. They had no idea what equipment came with which level of trim. Had little knowledge of the PHEV but then they didn't even have a Leon to drive so ended up in a Formentor with the same drive train. But yeah it's a 4.5!Maybe.
My experience with many salespeople at car dealerships is that they know relatively little about the cars they’re selling, so a salesperson describing the mk4 facelift as a mk5 isn’t really a surprise.
There are exceptions to the above; the two salespeople I dealt with when buying my current and previous car were time-served, each working for their respective dealerships and vehicle brands for 25+ years and 15 years respectively and they had extensive product knowledge. I always do lots of research before buying a car and ask the salesperson questions to test their knowledge! It was clear to me those salespeople they knew what they were talking about, and they were passionate about the cars they’re were selling and they both passed my test!
With the facelift mk4, Cupra would no doubt have promoted it in their sales and marketing material as the ‘new‘ - or ‘all-new’ - Cupra Leon to entice prospective customers into the dealerships; see showroom plate on the car in the picture below;
View attachment 49442
Cupra aren’t alone in promoting mid-lifecycle facelifts in this way; many (most?) other car manufacturers do the same. However to me, fitting a new design of bumpers, headlamps, alloy wheels and a larger touchscreen doesn’t make for an all new model; it’s a mild makeover to keep an existing model range fresh to generate customer interest and maintain / increase sales volumes until the next generation all-new replacement model comes along in a few years time.…….
For nearly as long as we have been around we've been more informed than many dealers sadly. I think for many it's just a job, for many of us it's a passion we follow closely.
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