Online functions in a MIB3 infotainment ?

[serdar_18fr]

Hi everyone,

My '25 Ateca has a MIB3 (specifically a Joynext MOI3, with the part number 575035816A, hardware H40, firmware 0516) infotainment unit, and as some of you may already know, I got its navigation FeCs activated, other than that it has all other features I might have wanted, already set in the factory: WLAN connectivity, Wireless FullLink, sports instruments display etc.

But I've been wondering about the possible online functions though, I have seen some videos where it has internet radio feature working and this might be interesting to have. To give you an idea about the situation in Turkey, Cupra Connect services are not available and also no mobile app is available through mobile app stores for the region. So there is no possible data connection for the SIM card that already installed in the telematics unit, and user profile selection is disabled in the unit, I believe.

I already know about the internet radio and over-the-air firmware updates are some of those online functions but I don't know if there are other possible features when you have Cupra Connect, that's one of the things I'd like to know.

Also, I thought that even if the SIM in telematics unit does not have a data connection, if I connect the infotainment unit to my mobile phone's wi-fi hotspot, then it could connect to the internet and some of those functions might then become available. I looked through all the relevant units' long codings and adaptations and found some possibly related settings about the connectivity, online media and internet radio, all currently disabled obviously.

I already know some members here are interested in things like this and I wanted to know about their insight about it.
Do you think it would be possible to get some of those features (internet radio at least, not interested in OTA updates) working by changing those settings, and maybe activating some FeCs ?

@Tell @Chillout @East Yorkshire Retrofits What do you say ?

Thanks in advance & cheers,
Serdar

 

[Tell]

Well I reckon you have full link or perhaps not:

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It's that, that I believe gives you Internet radio. You could experiment by using the cars wifi on a mobile hot spot. If thats useful some people do buy external hot spot devices that they permanently run in the car. Ive seen those talked about on boards. It bypasses the units built in SIM services that only come via the Cube contract which is regarded as slow by many people. Its an Internet of things (IoT) provider that buys cheap bandwidth off providers and re markets this.

In the UK you can buy throwaway SIM cards that give you a massive amount of annual data for £50 or so. I use one in my tablet. Hook it out once a year, bin it and put the next one in. People do the same with their own cars wifi hotspot that they connect up to the unit via WiFi. VW Mib2 which did have connect services they became popular. Early runner to mib3 connected services. They were using

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Or similar if they wanted a hot spot connected outside of the Cube network but not through their mobile. Possibly limit hassle etc.

I don't have mib3, I dont think there are specific apps that you download into the unit that give you Internet radio outside AA and Car Play but if there were they would be proprietary to VAG. Mib3 units now being rather well locked down youd have to use a retrofitter. No doubt I'll be told I'm wrong if there is a snazzy Seat / Cupra Internet radio app outside of full link services. Traffic reports come in to mib3 over connect services I know. This will be an integral part of the unit.

So the question is, does the car have full link.

 

[serdar_18fr]

So the question is, does the car have full link.

Car does have Full Link, I have already mentioned that in my post.

I can look for an Internet Radio app in Play Store for my Android phone, try adding it to AA and use it happily.

But it is not just about having Internet radio, it's more about being able to unlock one more feature that car's infotainment unit already has.

When you have internet radio on a MIB3 unit, it shows up among the sources in its native radio interface, that's what I like to have.

The real question is whether it would use the internet connection over my phone's hotspot, or it was set up only to use the car's own data connection over the SIM card in the telematics unit, which would of course require a Cupra Connect service subscription.

And as you mentioned, I know that I would need to use a retrofitter's services to unlock SFD2, I don't see that as an obstacle, I already did that and I could do it once again.

Probably I would be the first one to try something like this, and it would require a lot of trial and error to see if any coding change would make a difference.

P.S. : Forum interface played some games with me on the mobile phone screen and I struggled to quote as I wished. This is the final version of my post, sorry if that has caused any inconvenience.

 

[Tell]

See what @East Yorkshire Retrofits has to say. @Chillout may have changed his car now. I've seen him on Briskoda and says he's "retired" and doesn't write code now or words to that effect. Probably a skilled Retrofiter is what you want if you want to marry that up but perhaps that's only done via the eSim and the Cube network. Think I'll be coughing up for Connect services when I do get a new car. Problem you have is connected services isn't supported in Turkey. I won't be changing car for a bit....

 

[East Yorkshire Retrofits]

Does your car even have a telematics module installed? What's the VIN?

 

[serdar_18fr]

Does your car even have a telematics module installed? What's the VIN?

What does "even" mean?
Isn't it obvious that I have some knowledge about these stuff to know whether a specific type of module is installed in my car?

 

[Tell]

If you message him the VIN he'll be able to look up what's been fitted and enabled. Good starting point.

 

[East Yorkshire Retrofits]

What does "even" mean?
Isn't it obvious that I have some knowledge about these stuff to know whether a specific type of module is installed in my car?

Good luck.

 

[Tell]

Well apart from enabling navigation in these cars shipped to where there isnt connect services like the Middle East, North Africa and Turkey. Is there anything else that can be done with these mib3 units. @East Yorkshire Retrofits .... just in case Serdar doesnt come back to you.

European secondhand cars find their way to the Middle East the same as Japanese second hand cars (rental) land up in Australia and NZ. So that one about cars sold without the navigation enabled for the region comes up a far bit on Vag cars with mib3, sometimes new cars, others secondhand and shipped out. Here Maps exist for those regions and driving in desert conditions standalone maps are good. Been there, done that.

The navigation question comes up a fair bit but I wasn't aware that you could marry internet radio other than via Car Play / Android Auto. A so called seemless joint .

Its a bit weird for Vag selling connected cars where they can't be connected up.

 

[serdar_18fr]

but I wasn't aware that you could marry internet radio other than via Car Play / Android Auto.

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Here's a video where a Spanish Cupra owner gives the answer to my question.
He connects the unit to his phone's hotspot and Internet Radio function (can be seen on native radio interface in the video) starts using that connection.
Now I need to start a trial-and-error process where I enable the settings that looks related to the internet radio function.
This feature might need an activation of a FeC, I already found one FeC for online radio where all FeCs are listed, but it is not clear yet whether it is valid for MIB3 or not.

Anyway, I will definitely try this & share the results here.

 

[Tell]

Must be a built in app whether it needs enabling you'll find out. Cigarette lighter 4g devices which I posted above is where people dont want to bother with mobile data off their phones and pick up automatically without fiddling. Where Cubic prices might be high and data slow etc.

At one stage people were exchanging VCDS scans of their unit on the Spanish board and also I've seen them on the Ross site. You might find a mib3 one posted up where you can scan down or someone here might give you theirs that works like that on the 5f unit assuming you can get into it. Pass not having mib3. Might still be a prohibited area 🫣.

 

[serdar_18fr]

At one stage people were exchanging VCDS scans of their unit on the Spanish board and also I've seen them on the Ross site. You might find a mib3 one posted up where you can scan down or someone here might give you theirs that works like that on the 5f unit assuming you can get into it. Pass not having mib3. Might still be a prohibited area 🫣.

I had already contacted the owner of that video for something else, now I asked for the list of active FeCs in his 5F unit, to check if any of them corresponds some online radio feature FeC, this will be the first step I believe. Later I may ask him for complete scans of related units.

 

[Tell]

I had already contacted the owner of that video for something else, now I asked for the list of active FeCs in his 5F unit, to check if any of them corresponds some online radio feature FeC, this will be the first step I believe. Later I may ask him for complete scans of related units.

You'll probably want a scan of the infotainment unit. May be the telematic box. Not sure on the later as well plus as a picture of the FeCs.