1.8t Sport vs Ford Puma 16v

[kineticz]

Was out tonight with a friend in his Puma, 1.4 16v, and I was in my 1.8t 20v Sport. Top end he couldn't catch me, but when I let him get infront, I only slowly went past His car does 0-60 in 10 secs, mine is 7.5. He has 125nm torque, and mine has 235nm.

Surely I would have trounced him between 60-80? I was abit worried that there is something wrong with my car. Is the only proper way to compete from standstill?

Cheers
Dan

 

[Mylo]

a fiesta in drag nearly did you

oops

 

[kineticz]

No not drag lol, we were both cruising along doing say 50, then started the race and I slowly went past as I was driving behind him. I was expecting the torque to let me fly past.

And it was a Puma

 

[Fl@pper]

I was expecting to fly past.

misconception a lot of people suffer from

 

[kineticz]

So it's normal then when you're not doing it from standstill?

 

[caveo]

Decribe "fly past"..........................

 

[kineticz]

Well seeing as it was a 1.8 turbo against a 1.4 16v, I thought I would merely have to put my foot relatively down and drive past him with ease, but it was a case of foot to the floor to get past.

 

[caveo]

I feel HE was the better driver........ and you thought too much of tour car... a common mistake.

 

[kineticz]

You feel he was the better driver without seeing it? :|

I thought too much? Well erm... I'm not sure about that, just by comparing the two cars spec wise, there seems a big difference.

 

[caveo]

I feel Jason Plato would kick your ass in a Ford Puma .....LOL

 

[kineticz]

So with no reasoning or further details from myself, you think I'm a crap driver?

 

[caveo]

No i dont think you are a crap driver , BUT i feel i adjust your driving style as you have the "quicker" car .....When its not a Lambo so you still have to try...sorry mate lol

 

[kineticz]

I get it. I was overconfident and too relaxed...

 

[turbin]

-of course there might be a million other reasons to why theres no bigger difference than the 1 nice mr caveo points out

 

[caveo]

Man is never weaker than when he FEELS stronger.....nuff said.

 

[kineticz]

Well I will soon find out if it's underperforming when I take it in for a dyno run before and after a remap booked for early January.

It is probably the way I drove. When I drive off from standstill the car is awesome, it's been roughly timed to the quoted 7.5 seconds 0-60, I was just abit underwhelmed tonight with the 50+. So there is probably nothing wrong with the car.

 

[caveo]

Dyno meens f00k all as a car with 200 bhp for 4k revs WILL lose to a car with 200 bhp for 100bhp. Trust me in this years ten of the best compition a 400bhp EVO beat a 800+ bhp scooby due to drivablity and handling ect, etc... Numbers mean very little mate , get used to it.

 

[kineticz]

In that respect, as the part of the road we used had a few bends, and the Puma is really quite sporty compared to my 'boat-like' standard Leon handling, maybe if I got mods such as a rear ARB and lowered it, the car would have handled the road better compared to the Puma.

I mean, stiffer suspension and less body roll means less power 'wasted' in the corners, right?

 

[caveo]

Yes , but a coupe like the puma will handle better if it does the same , so make sure you take his to some nice long strights and use yourpower and toqure to its best. ( or splash 5 grand on a big turbo lol)

 

[kineticz]

Yes , but a coupe like the puma will handle better if it does the same , so make sure you take his to some nice long strights and use yourpower and toqure to its best. ( or splash 5 grand on a big turbo lol)

lol, thanks for your advice mate. I'm glad I made this thread, am understanding it better now. I have proved to myself figures are not everything without realising it at first.

On the straights it's really quite good. Going to focus on the handling after the remap.