100 pd or 130 pd

[Dan1720v]

its all in the driving. i used to get 57-60mpg from a 2.0 clio! Im also IAM qualified and also hold a Rospa Gold award. too many people follow the car in front. i used to work with a guy when i was a power engineer, and he used to scare me following the car infront.

Literally just been to town and got 81.2 on the way in, and 76 on the way back, as i got stopped at a few sets of lights. last tank i managed 531miles, light to light. but i did have a fast drive on that too. on the motorway i found it really suffers, did 140 miles last night and averaged 58mpg@85leptons.

 

[Alex 17]

I manage about 55 - 75 in my 130 remapped tdi with a cupra intake and panel filter + decat..
And i dont hang about!
Take a look in my rr for a picture proveing it

 

[dunkers19]

I'm sure insurance for the PD130 and the vRS will be similar, I think they are in the same group. (Group 9). I pay about £400 per year for my vRS, but that's with full no claims (10y+) and am my 30s.

thats what i thought pal but the insurance company said due to it being the flagship model parts of it are more expensive to repair compared to the seat. But Whats the point of having insurance groups if the premiums are never similar compared to same insurance group cars

 

[onesh0t]

its all in the driving. i used to get 57-60mpg from a 2.0 clio! Im also IAM qualified and also hold a Rospa Gold award. too many people follow the car in front. i used to work with a guy when i was a power engineer, and he used to scare me following the car infront.

Literally just been to town and got 81.2 on the way in, and 76 on the way back, as i got stopped at a few sets of lights. last tank i managed 531miles, light to light. but i did have a fast drive on that too. on the motorway i found it really suffers, did 140 miles last night and averaged 58mpg@85leptons.

You made me review my driving in town. On the motorway I get 55mpg, however in town about 40. I don't pootle around though, so I guess that's it. I got 54mpg on a 600mile run (over 2 days) over mixture of irish motorway and irish west coast no-class roads (thought I ripped of a wheel a few times).

As for the question, it's hard to answer. In all honesty after driving for a few years you realise that you don't really need that much power day to day. It would come in handy on A roads, when some idiot decides to roll at 40mph in traffic, other than that I'm very happy with the pd100. The power is comfortable, the mpg is excellent, the upkeep costs are low. The pd100 comes usually about 20% cheaper than the FR.

 

[great_kahn]

I'm sure insurance for the PD130 and the vRS will be similar, I think they are in the same group. (Group 9). I pay about £400 per year for my vRS, but that's with full no claims (10y+) and am my 30s.

thats what i thought pal but the insurance company said due to it being the flagship model parts of it are more expensive to repair compared to the seat. But Whats the point of having insurance groups if the premiums are never similar compared to same insurance group cars

Groups

FR is 8, VRS is 9.

 

[Wash It!]

I was very happy with my PD100 when I bought it, plenty more kick than my '97 1.3 Fiesta Encore...

The MPG is fantastic, 550 miles to a tank is no huge effort (though this is with plenty of motorway driving, I'm on the M3 most days end to end) The insurance price difference was fairly minimal between the Fiesta and this too, 22 years old with 3 years NCB.

However, after 18 months I am a little sore that I didn't save up a little extra and stretch to an FR at least. 6 gears and a bit more oomph would be great right now. As much as this is just a remap away for me now (aside from the 6 speed 'box) it's not the same as looking at a bit more power from the off and then remapping that to even more if the mood takes you.

I guess I'm trying to say, how long are you planning to keep the car? I'd only planned to have this 'un for a year which would've been no problem at all. As I'm looking at about 3 years ownership now, I'd have plumped for the FR with hindsight.

Ruddy hindsight...

Happy hunting though, a little patience always leads to a good choice eventually.

 

[Blakrover]

I got my pd100 when I was 20 and it was great. I only started to get bothered by the get up and go of it after 2 years owning it, but not enough for me to regret buying it and not saving for a higher powered one.

Having said that after 3 years of it I swapped it for a Cupra TDi.

On reliability the car was solid as a rock with only a few issues. Once the rear washer pipe popped off when it was frozen this last winter. The cup holder jammed. And the front right spring snapped, that was due to dark plus mahooosive hole in the road...

Happy hunting tho!

 

[dunkers19]

Groups

FR is 8, VRS is 9.

Sorry pal i should have said the sport tdi 130;Is that insurnace group on the new insurance index ie 1-50

 

[dunkers19]

I got my pd100 when I was 20 and it was great. I only started to get bothered by the get up and go of it after 2 years owning it, but not enough for me to regret buying it and not saving for a higher powered one.

Having said that after 3 years of it I swapped it for a Cupra TDi.

On reliability the car was solid as a rock with only a few issues. Once the rear washer pipe popped off when it was frozen this last winter. The cup holder jammed. And the front right spring snapped, that was due to dark plus mahooosive hole in the road...

Happy hunting tho![/QUOTE]

Thats great help i think it will have to be the pd 100 then for the time being, let the search begin

 

[Si_TDi_FR]

Im 21 and i'm paying £700 fully comp with remap declared on my FR PD130

 

[krussel]

If possible test drive both cars and judge for youself what diff the 30 bhp makes and if you think its worth the extra expense. Mine is the 130 FR and it has a great midrange punch which is addictive but i dont know how much more over the 100 bhp

 

[great_kahn]

Sorry pal i should have said the sport tdi 130;Is that insurnace group on the new insurance index ie 1-50

Sport tdi 130 is group 8, or group 20 on the new 1-50 index.

Same as the FR.

Hmmmm interesting. Fabia VRS was group 9 on the old system, but is now 18 on the new 1-50 index

 

[Jim H]

Just out of curiosity, what Group is the Cupra TDI on the old system?

 

[onesh0t]

Hmmmm interesting. Fabia VRS was group 9 on the old system, but is now 18 on the new 1-50 index

As ugly as the Fabia is, you're tempting me sir.

 

[krussel]

Just out of curiosity, what Group is the Cupra TDI on the old system?

I think it was about 13 ??????

 

[onesh0t]

15.

 

[krussel]

15.

OUCH. I knew there was a reason i choose the FR

 

[great_kahn]

OUCH. I knew there was a reason i choose the FR

Ap racing brakes... group 15 right there son

 

[onesh0t]

There's something seriously wrong with insurance groups:
I'm paying 1k with my 100pd (insurance group 6?) at the moment (22, european licence - 4 years, 0 no claims)
Got quoted £900 for a 1.2 clio.
Got quoted 1.2k for the 130pd (group 8),
Got quoted 3k for a cupra (understandable)
Got quoted 3.5k for a group 7 Toyota Auris

 

[mexicorich]

As said, drive both and decide for yourself
I drive an Ibiza diesel for economy and sit everywhere on cruise control
My extra 30bhp is mostly never used and I just pay the price of higher fuel consumption
Having owned both, sticking to the speed limits gives me 50mpg in my 130 Sport, vs 60mpg the 100SE used to give

If I want to go fast I don't use my Ibiza......