So your TT is dull is it?
Also '53 Leon sx' or whatever your name is, Andrew means to take the 4wd parts off a altea XL rather than use that as the main car,if that makes any sense? He would replace his rear axle etc with the one from the 4wd car
4WD Leon
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So your TT is dull is it?
Also '53 Leon sx' or whatever your name is, Andrew means to take the 4wd parts off a altea XL rather than use that as the main car,if that makes any sense? He would replace his rear axle etc with the one from the 4wd car
Jase, I know what you mean about making it dull, but it would improve handling if it was 4wd, would it not?
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So your TT is dull is it?
Also '53 Leon sx' or whatever your name is, Andrew means to take the 4wd parts off a altea XL rather than use that as the main car,if that makes any sense? He would replace his rear axle etc with the one from the 4wd car
360bhp k1 vs 335hp ttrs and the leon was a more involving drive.
I could only imagine a s3 would send me to sleep, too effortless to drive, 0 drama. Point and foot to the floor
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So your TT is dull is it?
Also '53 Leon sx' or whatever your name is, Andrew means to take the 4wd parts off a altea XL rather than use that as the main car,if that makes any sense? He would replace his rear axle etc with the one from the 4wd car
Name is visible in the same place yours is 'betty_swollox' but yeah that makes sense, similar concept as that Graham guy is doing with the mk1 leon using the s3 rear floor pan etc as you said in one of your other posts but what Andrew said does not answer what you asked in the op which is why don't SEAT make a 4WD mk2 cupra r
AWD is over rated, personally I think RWD would be phenomenal. AWD is predominantly used in high power cars that come from a rallying background as this is what it was originally meant for, Audi, Mitsubishi Nissan etc. Leons are a sporty brand but are ultimately hot hatches not serious racing cars and tuner platforms.
I do agree on RWD though, I've always wondered why very little cars in our country adopt it, it is almost always better if not necessary when approaching 290hp+. A rear wheel drive Leon would be good, only if the wheel base was long enough to make full use of the power. Clio V6 was a death trap, too much power in such a little rear wheel drive car.
Could RWD Leon be possible?
I do agree on RWD though, I've always wondered why very little cars in our country adopt it, it is almost always better if not necessary when approaching 290hp+. A rear wheel drive Leon would be good, only if the wheel base was long enough to make full use of the power. Clio V6 was a death trap, too much power in such a little rear wheel drive car.
Could RWD Leon be possible?
4x4 and rear wheel are both f****n brilliant in their way, I watched some of the vids on youtube of people ice racing with 4 wheel drive and it looks like great fun and also my mate had an A3 quattro which was just an S3 with the wrong badge, it was awesome fun. I've also had some rear wheel drive cars and what can you say, they were superb, the Mk1 Mr2 was the funiest though, twitchy as anything and I ended up facing the wrong way a couple of times but great fun.
Was there not someone in the readers rides doing a 4x4 conversion on the leon? Also try a search for wicca, some guy called Ivan that did one on an ibiza, I don't know what happened to him but his car sounded pretty dam good fun.
Was there not someone in the readers rides doing a 4x4 conversion on the leon? Also try a search for wicca, some guy called Ivan that did one on an ibiza, I don't know what happened to him but his car sounded pretty dam good fun.
Anything is possible with enough money. The reason why a lot of front engined cars like hatchbacks and small saloons etc aren't rear wheel drive is simple: it's expensive.
Any proper sports car will be rear wheel drive. Look at the BMW M range. Are any of them front or four wheel drive? No.
Look at F1 cars. FWD/4WD? No.
Drag cars. FWD/4WD? No.
It's well known that rear wheel drive is better for acceleration because of the weight transfer, and also cornering because then the front wheels don't have to cope with the driving AND steering.
However to have a rear wheel drive car powered by an engine in the front you need to connect the two together somehow...which normally means a propshaft. This adds weight, and you also have to sacrifice cabin space or make the car bigger (again more weight). Plus then you'd need to redesign the engine bay for a longitudinally mounted engine as opposed to transverse like most front engined FWD cars have).
In a front engined FWD car it's pretty simple, drop the engine in the front and connect it to the front wheels. Quick and easy, cheap, less thing to go wrong and easier to fix when they do. Front wheel drive is fine for road cars, 99% of which aren't bought for driving on a racetrack.
I think the BMW 1 series is probably the smallest front engined RWD car we will see, I expect the only reason why it is actually RWD is because of BMW and their reluctance to produce a front wheel drive car.
Any proper sports car will be rear wheel drive. Look at the BMW M range. Are any of them front or four wheel drive? No.
Look at F1 cars. FWD/4WD? No.
Drag cars. FWD/4WD? No.
It's well known that rear wheel drive is better for acceleration because of the weight transfer, and also cornering because then the front wheels don't have to cope with the driving AND steering.
However to have a rear wheel drive car powered by an engine in the front you need to connect the two together somehow...which normally means a propshaft. This adds weight, and you also have to sacrifice cabin space or make the car bigger (again more weight). Plus then you'd need to redesign the engine bay for a longitudinally mounted engine as opposed to transverse like most front engined FWD cars have).
In a front engined FWD car it's pretty simple, drop the engine in the front and connect it to the front wheels. Quick and easy, cheap, less thing to go wrong and easier to fix when they do. Front wheel drive is fine for road cars, 99% of which aren't bought for driving on a racetrack.
I think the BMW 1 series is probably the smallest front engined RWD car we will see, I expect the only reason why it is actually RWD is because of BMW and their reluctance to produce a front wheel drive car.
At the moment I would prefer fwd for most of the times and centainly in a daily use car.
I like 4wd but there is a big difference between haldex and for example the system Mitsubishi uses. I like it when most of the power goes to the rear wheels.
Real 4wd for me would only be an option in countries with a challenging climate (loads of snow or heavy rainfall during the winter).
Rwd, well I still have an lexus Is with a Supra MKIV motor in it, it send loads of power to the rear wheels, but to be honest a rwd car is great in the dry and for track days but in the rain or winter it's really annoying and I don't want a car with a rear side that constantly moves in a direction I don't want it to.
I like 4wd but there is a big difference between haldex and for example the system Mitsubishi uses. I like it when most of the power goes to the rear wheels.
Real 4wd for me would only be an option in countries with a challenging climate (loads of snow or heavy rainfall during the winter).
Rwd, well I still have an lexus Is with a Supra MKIV motor in it, it send loads of power to the rear wheels, but to be honest a rwd car is great in the dry and for track days but in the rain or winter it's really annoying and I don't want a car with a rear side that constantly moves in a direction I don't want it to.
The thing is, I've always liked EVOs, skylines etc, but love the shape of the Leon, so a 4wd version would appeal to me. Do they not compete in the WRC?
I can imagine a RWD Leon being lethal lol
I can imagine a RWD Leon being lethal lol
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