The point is MAF sensor needs laminar flow to measure accurately. Flow straighteners are there to try and do this. This can also be done by having a bunch of straight diameters worth up stream to allow the air to stabilise before the measuring device (MAF element), but there's not sufficient room in the engine bay.
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The point is MAF sensor needs laminar flow to measure accurately. Flow straighteners are there to try and do this. This can also be done by having a bunch of straight diameters worth up stream to allow the air to stabilise before the measuring device (MAF element), but there's not sufficient room in the engine bay.
Yumann
Which part are you referring too?
Is it the breather system?
It has been on track for the last 2 years without baffled sump on sticky rubber....now to be rectified with engine out.
Ian
Ugly black manifold? As it comes with lifetime warranty I'm happy with that..can't really see it anyway.
OE interrnals at moment Bill....capping power to 300-320 until new 1900 motor is completed later in year. I'm told by most in tuning industry that it will be safe including APR.
Quite a costly excercise going 1900 with valves and labour...need to save my pennies
OE interrnals at moment Bill....capping power to 300-320 until new 1900 motor is completed later in year. I'm told by most in tuning industry that it will be safe including APR.
Quite a costly excercise going 1900 with valves and labour...need to save my pennies
costing me around 1500 inc vat to install rods, bore to 83mm (1.9) and install the postons, port and polish the head and install the supertech valves. this inc balancing.
im having other stuff done too, but this is part of the quote.
i source all the parts myself. and the guys who are doing the work are RPM in Kent
Sensor needs laminar flow for accurate/consistent measurement.
What is it about a BMC which introduces swirl?
I don't see any kind of turbo inlet in the pics (I see an adapter pipe after the MAF but nothing for the turbo itself), how does it link from MAF to turbo, the APR kit usually has a crossover pipe along the top?
Is it the ally item with reducer and outlet fittings branching out of it on the right hand side?
silicon elbow onto turbo, vertical ally part, then another silicon elbow onto MAF housing kinda thing.
rhd syndrome.
after all the delay in coming, was expecting it to be more than a tubular manifold etc. That was'nt very hard to come up with.
Going to be hot and close to the heater pipes coming out of the bulkhead judging by the pictures of it.
Be an interesting install.
after all the delay in coming, was expecting it to be more than a tubular manifold etc. That was'nt very hard to come up with.
Going to be hot and close to the heater pipes coming out of the bulkhead judging by the pictures of it.
Be an interesting install.
That's what I like about these forums...all the doubters..I wonder why I post thimgs....please remember it's APR's first UK RHD drive the manifold initially developed for the TT install....I would have thought there was even less room in the bay than the Golf !! Perhaps not Bill?
If it doesn't fit then I would be very surprised...shame if it didn't and back to square 1.
MYK3..I can't comment on the price you have quoted....not what I'm paying!
From some of your optimsm it all looks a big mistake and an expensive poorly designed kit. I'm sure there maybe issues but that's for Awesome to fathom out with APR.
Does anyone know if there's more space in the TT engine bay? Heat and the pipes being close the manifold will I'm sure get sorted...otherwise it's back to KO3s or similar.
Ian
If it doesn't fit then I would be very surprised...shame if it didn't and back to square 1.
MYK3..I can't comment on the price you have quoted....not what I'm paying!
From some of your optimsm it all looks a big mistake and an expensive poorly designed kit. I'm sure there maybe issues but that's for Awesome to fathom out with APR.
Does anyone know if there's more space in the TT engine bay? Heat and the pipes being close the manifold will I'm sure get sorted...otherwise it's back to KO3s or similar.
Ian
from my experience of getting stuff done on my tt there is very limited space which is probably why APR kept with the stubby type manifold
i'm sure there will be teething problems but try and remain calm and patient as the end result will be worth it
looks like i'll have some fierce competition from jims tt at gti this year then
Its deceptive. You would think if it can fit a TT it can fit a golf, much the same as if it can fit an ibiza it can fit anything...BUT as we have just seen on the Badger kit just fitted to matts mk4, its actually tighter in the mk4 than my ibiza to bulkhead and heater hoses. Doable with a few mods, no biggie, but different where I would'nt have thought previously. A great Dan install.
Be interesting to gauge how much less radiated heat comes from a ceramic (jet black) coated manifold. Matts is white ceramic coated, but its still being run in so will see how much heat reduction there is. Based on my ibiza experience racing last year on my new setup, if it can ignite and combust within sight of the mani and DP, it more than likely will. You cant have too much heatshielding and strategic heat wrap over some hot bits, but consider heatwrap bits to be a maintenance/consummable item.
The two statements above are probably linked
"pimp my ride"
And there are also people who buy direct, do their own stuff, riding on the back of those who have paved the way so they know what bits to get or not. Not everyone wants the risk of all the parts not making the desired end product and if things were to go wrong vs warranty from others. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Quality costs. Simple as. eg: you can buy a "tubular manifold" for $300 on ebay and you can also spend >$2000 on an "equal length tubular manifold". Which is best?
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I don't think people are putting the kit down as such, it just looks very different to the LHD APR kit and not an 'official' APR kit as such, I would have though it would have been the same as the LHD setup bar the manifold being sided for RHD ... that's what I was expecting to see, perhaps RHD is being short-changed compared to the LHD kits?
fair play for having a go at something new I say, first time is never easy but with apr and awesome behind the project, chances are it will all be ok, may be a couple hiccups but thats to be expected
very interested to hear how it all goes and keep posting the details !
Cheers
Rob
very interested to hear how it all goes and keep posting the details !
Cheers
Rob
I doubt there's a big enough market do investment castings for RHD... nothing more.. Its not like it cant be designed to suit in a cast version as I know it can. Whether there would be any recovery of development and tooling costs for a small market however.... I think people can guess.
I'm just as interested as anyone else with this kit. I don't think they've short changed the kit for RHD as tests show in Australia with this manifold and pipework configuration the spoil up and power figures are even better than the US LHD kit....I have been told that the delivery is some 300rpm sooner.
I just hope the kit delivers the goods and is very driveable without too many issues...with sensible mapping I'm hoping that it shouldn't create massive heat problems but it's something that will be looked at in due course.
I just hope the kit delivers the goods and is very driveable without too many issues...with sensible mapping I'm hoping that it shouldn't create massive heat problems but it's something that will be looked at in due course.
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